Harkness have a new hulthemia - Alissar, Princess of Phoenicia, which is looking like a good doer - at the moment, it is completely healthy. Both Eyes for You and Alissar PoP are readily available in many nurseries in the UK so would expect these will be coming to the US soon. I have eyes for you (it looks very similar to tree paeonies)too but it is so far, staying quite gangly with little new growth apart from the original (very thorny and woody) three canes it came with. Annoyingly, it does not show an inclination for female fertility, refusing to set heps of any viability in its first year here. Couldn't say whether this is the case with Alissar as I have been dead-heading it. I am a little astonished at the sudden explosion of interest in these roses - Euphrates was bred back in the early 80's (I wasn't even much of a gardener but this rose stood out for me like a beacon) -I have been following all the breeding with hulthemias quite avidly ever since. Another rose I am hoping will be developed is the gooseberry leaved rose - R.stellata and stellata mirifica - this little rose also has an elusive darker tone at it's centre - a look I find very attractive.

Yes, I do collect the seed. The seed are large and the plant keeps producing flowers and as each flower turns to seed, the plant is continually producing seed unless you are deadheading. As the season continues, the seed can start dropping. In some areas this plant can become a pest because of the seeds dropping and because I believe the plant produces some type of tuber. I have not planted it in the ground because of that, but have always planted it in containers. I don't think it is much of a problem in my zone because I don't think they are hardy to zone 6, but in the warmer zones, I believe they do survive the winter and can become a pest. Very easy to start from seed, to collect seed, and start them for containers every year.

Masd Copper Martguerita (Copper Angel x Marguerit 'Sunset'), had it for a couple of years, finally a flower. Nick

hello everyone I have not disapiered, just been very buisy. we will be going on a road trip with the boys to San Antonio, we leave on sat and get back in 8 days on sunday. give me a day or two to get the house and garden taken care of and I will start sending everyone my address, if you already have it just post here and it will save me time. here is my FINAL list I promise amaranthus agahstachi - purple pygmy - any except honey bee blue and golden jubalee blushing susie vine bee balm/manarda - white and red butterfly bush cosmos - any coneflowers - harvest moon - paradoxia yellow - sunset - sundown - ruby star - any except purple and black eyed susan columbine - any coriopsis - jethro tull - limerock dream - pin wheel - presto - sweet dreams - mardi gras - any dill deanthus - any purple or red delphinium - magic fountain white - summer skies - belladonna - most any blue or white fennel - green or bronze false nettle geranium - any annual or perenial hostas - any seeds larkspurs - blues merigold - simba milkweed ornamental peppers paw paw poppies - fancy feathers - other frilly - any realy sunflowers - any essp. reds scabiosa - summer berries - any other blue verbina viola - almost any not pink verbascum - banana custard - honey dejon - any zinnias - any I will get in touch with everyone when I get back. have a great day michelle