Gas shut valve & base cabinet placement
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Comments (13)chris8796: Yup, I think that is the route I'm going to have to take. (I'm just tired, that's all.) I've never done any plumbing because my dad never did any plumbing: he always figured the price of failure was too high to mess around with for that area of home improvement (and electricity, too). I don't doubt I can do this, though. It is just one more line item on my list of things to learn how to do because I can't find anyone to not rip me off. suburbanmd: Actually, we ponied up for the plumbers report for Washington Consumer Checkbook. I called the top fourteen on the list and only got two callbacks. One was the $580 quote (of the two quotes I got, it was indeed lower than the other by about $100), and the other never returned my follow-up call (I wasn't home when he first called me). And Angie's list is basically useless. I think we are small and plumbers either won't bother or they jack the price up high enough that it is "worth" their precious time. Fair enough but I'm sick of it, and at best, it is either rude or disingenuous. There is absolutely no way I think removing two stupid cut-off valves will take almost four hours by a licensed plumber (which is what the $580 implies, given what that company quoted as their time-and-materials per-hour rate). And yes, I do understand that when they give you a firm quote, they are supposed to be trying to factor in the "mystery" part where they don't actually know for sure what is inside your walls or what they might encounter. But we have no drywall and they can see everything....See MoreWhere to put gas shut-off for range?
Comments (3)To add a bit of emphasis to what Dan & Jcal have previously stated, if you have a gas leak, or suspect a gas leak, get everyone out of the structure immediately and DO NOT turn anything off or on during your egress, especially light switches or electrical devices. Most residential grade switches are not "arc Proof" which means that they can produce a spark when switched on or off and the resultant spark could ignite the gas. Ideally you should have a prearranged emergency game plan worked out with your family where everyone gets out and meets at a predetermined point such as a neighbors house. Call 911 from a cell phone or a neighbors phone once you are clear, and by having a prearranged meeting point you can confirm your whole family got out. Code actually defines three levels of accessibility 1. Accessible- May require moving the appliance or items stored in an adjacent cabinet or it may require a key or tools to access the valve such as when a valve is located inside a service access panel. (Service panels are typically only found in commercial applications) 2. Readily Accessible- May require moving the appliance or opening a cabinet or service access panel providing the cabinet or panel can be opened without the use of tools or keys. 3. Immediately Accessible- Must be mounted in plain view from the operating or primary service position of the appliance and must have an assured clearance which would permit operating the valve without obstruction while standing at floor level. Typically a residential gas range installation is done in the manner described by Dan above, however there are some general rules concerning the use of flexible service lines. 1. The minimum diameter of a flex line must be equal to the inlet diameter of the appliance regulator. 2.The flex line must be labeled as approved for the BTU demand of the appliance or greater. 3.The inlet end of the flex line must be connected immediately after the shutoff valve. 4.Flex lines must initiate and terminate in the same room. They may not be passed through a wall, floor or appliance housing. ( Be careful here, the gas regulator on most freestanding gas ranges is mounted under the cook top on the left side in the front 1/3 of the appliance depth. You must install a pipe nipple from the gas regulator to the rear of the appliance where the flex line can be connected immediately outside the appliance housing). Some jurisdictions do not permit flex lines, but rather, they require hard piping the complete installation. In this case the gas line is run vertically up to the rear of the cook top, then turned 90deg and a pipe is run through the real housing into the cook top section. We then install a short nipple on the gas regulator with a union on the rear end of the nipple. From the rear end of the union we install a close nipple then the shutoff valve and the pipe from the input side of the shutoff valve is connected to the gas riser behind the appliance. (If you look at the rear housing of the range you will see a large opening that will permit clearance for the gas valve and union when sliding the range into place. Once the union is tightened the gas valve can be opened and for future service the valve is accessible by lifting the range top.)...See MoreWhere to put gas shut-off for range?
Comments (11)I discussed this at length with contractor and plumber. Code here requires one near the range - normally they put it behind. Clearly this isn't for safety - seems to be in case of maintenance on the range. I said I wanted one accessible in case of a problem. They gave me the same answer as above - get out and shut off outside. But we found a solution that satisfied everybody. My range in in peninsula. We put the shutoff *under* the cabinet behind the range, on the back of the peninsula. I have a small piece of toekick that is removable - mounted with magnets and a small finger hole to grab to remove it. The valve is right behind it. The electric outlet for the range is also under that cabinet. So I avoided cutting into the useful part of any cabinets. The same thing could probably be done under a cabinet next to the range....See MoreWolf GR486 gas shut-off installation question
Comments (2)The rough-in locations for Wolf ranges are very tight to allow them to slide in all the way. Typically the best way is up through the floor with a 90 degree elbow almost flush with the floor to keep the shut off valve handle under 2". The other option is having to cut the wall's interior bottom plate to allow for the supply line to get close to the floor coming out of the wall. Check that the gas pipe sizing is correct for a range that size. (3/4"?) This should all be in the install specs....See Morefirstmmo
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