(sigh)Primer questions--Full adhesion? Hardness? 14 days to cure?

16 years ago

Our 1949 bathroom was painted pink (looks like it was a flat paint), then some kind of aquamarine (looks shiny, so probably an enamel, and it's peeling in some areas), then wallpapered. We've removed the wallpaper and have been able to peel away the [at least 30 year old] enamel (?) paint in some areas.

We decided that Bulls Eye 1-2-3 water based interior/exterior primer that sticks-to-all-surfaces was best for this job, so we did our first coat of primer today. Some of the aquamarine shows through--not a problem, we'll just put on two coats of primer unless there is a reason not to do so.

Anyway, the can of Bulls Eye says full adhesion and hardness develops in 7 days. It also says it can be used with any topcoat AND it can be recoated in 1 hour.

So if it can be recoated in 1 hour, what does the "full adhesion and hardness" part mean? I should wait a week instead of an hour to recoat it? On-line, I found something that said the Bulls Eye 1-2-3 takes 14 days to cure.

I'm dizzy!!!!! Could someone help me and enlighten me please??? What do these somewhat contradictory terms mean for what I want to do?

Also, while I'm asking, I'm going to use a semi-gloss enamel paint--is that an appropriate choice?

The neighborhood hardware and paint store has Behr and Valspar. Should I choose BM or ??? paint instead? I'll only need a gallon, so if it's more expensive than Behr or Valspar, no problem unless it's over $50/gallon!!!!

Smiles,

Sooz

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Faron79
16 years ago
Hey Sooz!
First things first...

* Did you get rid of all the wallpaper glue/residue??
* If not, I'd wait a couple days for the primer to "lock-in" any glue that may be trying to ooze it's way through the new primer.
* "Full adhesion & hardness" plays more towards if you're painting a REAL slick surface like tile or glass. If takes a little more time to form the bond to tile, etc.
* If you need to sand your primer, like for doors/trim, a day or two wait is appropriate.
* Take a GOOD look at your dried primer film. If your walls are unusually thirsty, and it seems your primer has "disappeared", do a second full coat.
* You MAY notice areas to repair at this point...check carefully! Example-there may be rough spots that are more visible now. Feather-sand/repair, and re-prime.
* After (possible) 2nd coat of primer, let it dry 2-3 hrs. and paint away!!

>>> Nothing wrong with either brand. I'd use a Satin or Semi-gloss in a main bath. Do you have/use a bath-fan?!
>>> TWO FULL coats of paint though!!! Primer doesn't substitute for a coat of paint!!
>>> Use good tools too. Cheap-o rollers/brushes sabotauge a good paint.

Also: The word "Enamel" is meaningless. All it means is "any coating that forms a hard surface...". But it "sounds" good!

Faron
sooz
Original Author
16 years ago
Yes, we did get rid of all the wallpaper glue/residue--and I really appreciate your list of things to consider and do!!! Also very helpful was---heck, your ENTIRE post!!!

Thanks for ALL your help! You rock!
Smiles,
Sooz
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Faron79
16 years ago
Sooz,
Velkhommen!
That's....Norwegian for "You're welcome"!
I'm a big Norwegian from Fargo, ND, don'cha know...

Faron
sooz
Original Author
16 years ago
You're a big Norwegian??? Now you're talking!!! Woo hoo!!!! LOVE big guys, and have one for myself! Are there a lot of Norwegians in ND ??
Faron79
16 years ago
Ya, you betcha der den...!(all 6'3" 280lbs.)
or...
Ya sure den...
Norwegians in ND...hmmm...prob'ly 50% of the population!!
>>> And YES, I LOVE Lutefisk & Lefse!!!

Smiles back at'cha !
Faron
sooz
Original Author
16 years ago
Okay, my big Norwegian cyber-paint-pal-guru,

I got a quart of one color and a pint of another (two different stores, one didn't do pints, darn it!) in semi-gloss and I painted areas of the room to see what colors we liked best.

I only did one coat so far, and intended to paint a second coat tomorrow, but the color is so nice and rich and highly pigmented, do I really really really have to do two full coats of paint???

Thanks, Faron!
Smiles,
Sooz
P.S. Yes, we have a bath fan, and a window too! :O)
Faron79
16 years ago
Sooz,
You kinda answered your own question in your 2nd sentence!

>>> It'll be even richer & MORE pigmented after the two coats you must do!
>>> Main reason...Nobody puts on an even first coat...just doesn't happen!!
>>> Don't use the shower for a couple days in that bath. YOUR TWO coats of S/G need a couple days to get that initial 'hardening-off" b4 a load of moisture hits it!

You've got a WINDOW in your bath...LUCKY...!! (ala Napolean Dynamite!)

Faron
sooz
Original Author
16 years ago
LOL, okay, okay my Norwegian Woods buddy (The Beatles reference)....I'll do a couple of coats and thanks for the tip about not using the shower for a couple of days! I didn't know that. I scooted you an email but I guess it got lost in cyberspace...darn ol' cyberspace!

BTW, should I do a light sanding in between the first coat and the second coat of paint? Or just slap it on?

Again, (((thank you))) !

Ciao,
Sooz

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