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How long before you discovered your first major mistake?

erikanh
15 years ago

I knew it would happen sooner or later ... I'd forget some important detail and mess up ... and today was the day!

The faucet and dishwasher were hooked up today. I was sooo excited that I won't be doing dishes in the powder room anymore. As soon as I turned on the faucet I discovered my first big mistake of this kitchen renovation.

Yesterday when the countertop was being installed I was so focused on showing the guy where to position the holes for the airswitch and the soap dispenser that I completely forgot to tell him to space the faucet back a little so that the stream would hit the drain which is toward the back! Arghhhhh!! As soon as I realized my mistake, my heart just sunk; but, then I just told myself that nothing is perfect and to get over it.

The good news is that I love love love the faucet and I am tickled pink about my deep single-basin farmhouse sink. The dish drawers seem pretty darn nice so far too! How long before I go back to not being excited to do dishes? ;)

Anybody else have any renovation blunders they'd like to share?

Erika

Comments (35)

  • pbrisjar
    15 years ago

    Erika - Your "mistake" may just turn out to be the best thing you've done. Seriously. That whole faucet into the drain thing is a bunch of hooey IMNSHO. I mean really, how often do you leave the faucet perfectly centered and in place? Also, with today's deeper sinks if it's splashing up from hitting the bottom it's not going to get very far.

    You're actually much more likely to get splashing / spillover from having your faucet too close to the edge and/or sides of the sink(which it would be if you set it back). Trust me - I know this from painful experience. I get reminded of it every single time I use our sink.

  • palimpsest
    15 years ago

    Before the kitchen was finished when someone chipped the dark toned plain color laminate on the edge most visible from the door.

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    15 years ago

    MIS99!!

    Oh no, you're kidding! I have exactly the same situation about to be installed! Ugh, now I'll have to rethink it!
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  • erikanh
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Thanks to everyone for your reassurance that my drain mistake may not be so bad after all. You've made me feel so much better! I was determined not to obsess over it, but I couldn't help but chide myself for my forgetfulness.

    I'm glad that rhome pointed out about being blessed. The other day I was making my way through washing a big stack of dirty dishes in my little powder room pedestal sink. I started thinking that my temporary inconvenience would still seem like the extreme height of luxury to women in many parts of the world who have to walk for miles to get water that may not even be clean.

    It's good that we can laugh at our mistakes, maybe help someone else avoid making them, and enjoy all the other terrific things about our kitchens. =)

    Erika

  • charlikin
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    So another mistake I made was not paying enough attention to the undercabinet lighting. I knew I wanted fluorescent lights. My framed cabinets would have a 3/4" recess underneath, and because my backsplash was going to be short (see my message above), I didn't want to add a light rail. My contractor told me the fluorescents he used were 1". The lowest-profile ones I could find were from W.A.C. and were 7/8". I decided that for 1/8", I was not going to obsess about this, and I'd just let the contractor use his standard ones.

    MISTAKE! His standard ones are actually 1-1/4". (Amazing how fuzzy contractors can be about measurements when their jobs are all about measurements!!!)

    I keep telling myself it doesn't really matter. When you're standing in the kitchen, you can't see them whether they're 1-1/4" or 7/8". When I'm sitting at my desk outside the kitchen, I can see them, but I would be able to see them whether they're 1-1/4" or 7/8". Not sure what a light rail would do for me, or if this extra 3/8" means that if I do decide to add a light rail, I'd need a bigger one than I might have needed otherwise... Still don't *want* the light rail. (Didn't want it when I thought my backsplash was going to be 18"! Definitely don't want it with my backsplash at only 16-3/4".)

    I'm going to stop obsessing about this. I am.

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  • friedajune
    15 years ago

    My mistake was that my refrigerator is a 36" side-by-side. I finished my kitchen the week of Thanksgiving (I was determined to have Thanksgiving in my new kitchen). So it was quickly apparent by Wednesday before Thanksgiving that my refrigerator was too small. The side-by-side configuration was a mistake; it's just too narrow. I had enough space in my kitchen for a single door/bottom freezer style fridge, but it just never occurred to me to buy one. It also didn't occur to me to go wider than 36", even though I had the room for it. I just always had a 36" fridge, and never thought about a different size. It's not the end of the world. Most days it's not a problem. Just when I have parties and lots of dishes to refrigerate, I really REALLY wish I'd gone bigger--and wider.

  • elizpiz
    15 years ago

    akchicago - any room for a second inexpensive (ie used) fridge in the basement or the garage? We deliberately went with a smaller all-fridge and freezer drawers in thh kitchen, and have both a stand up fridge and freezer in the basement (what can I say - it's the Italian in me!!)

    Eliz

  • friedajune
    15 years ago

    Elizpiz - Thanks, but I don't have a basement, and my garage, well, living in the city, I am grateful just to have my teeny garage, which barely fits my car, so no room there. I just make do, and wait for this fridge to break so that I have an excuse to get another. However, the irony--after having read so many threads on the Appliances Forum about malfunctioning fridges--is that my wonderful Kitchenaid side-by-side has never had one problem, nor been off by nary a degree, so I think I'll just live with this mistake. It's not really so bad!

  • raehelen
    15 years ago

    Erika,

    Glad you're comfortable with 'your mistake'now. Truly, I had never heard that the faucet had to be positioned directly over the drain before coming to GW. I still don't know why? Doesn't the water get wasted running down the drain that way? Anyhow, love love love my new gooseneck faucet with spray head - love being able to position pots and pans and vases to be filled, and love washing down the sides of the sink with the sprayer. Guess for me, it took 14 months to fully realize my major mistake- that's when my kitchen company declared bankruptcy before finishing off the reno from he**. 3rd carpenter we hired to complete the job just phoned and will be coming by tomorrow to pick up doors that don't close properly (we hired him Aug 08), once he does this last chore, and DH finishes with the UC lighting, it will all be finished- started May 07!!! Oh, and my major mistake was hiring the company I chose- feel even better about your faucet positioning now?

  • diy_dirk
    15 years ago

    I think we selected the wrong color grout on the backsplash. The bad news is - we already began to grout. D**M!

    DD

  • kat123
    15 years ago

    My major mistake was HUGE! I discovered early on that we had chosen the wrong contractor. Out remodel was "completed" (what a joke) two years ago and we're still repairing the long list of mistakes. We aren't spring chickens and should have realized the two contractor brothers were dishonest and intensely disliked by their subs....and consequently the work showed it.

  • janicejan
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    It took me a week before I found out that there were something wrong on how the carpenter placed the cabinet, I mean if you can only see how the carpenter worked on it you will be disappointed, too bad I wasn't there while he was working on it, and the results was too damn awful.

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  • User
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    I guess I'm lucky, It's been five years, and no major mistakes discovered yet. I had a great KD company and KD, with good advice and I got just what I wanted and needed. Everything works well and my kitchen is still a pleasure to work in.

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    I agree with raehelen about the location of the faucet and having water run around the sink before it goes down the drain. Since all my faucets swivel, I make sure they don't run directly down the drain.

    I got a smaller fridge and love it. Since it's usually just me, I don't mind not wasting energy cooling a big fridge that I only need a few times a year.

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    15 years ago

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  • kateskouros
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