I had a picture of a 8N with a blown flat head in it, Got of the net from a car show somewhere in the Carolina's (lost it when computer crashed)(anybody seen it????). That baby was sweet. I can't count the valve cover bolts to make out the ford V8. Maybe be a winsor.

He will be, lol. We had to put him on ice since it was so late when we got home and he is too big to clean in the house. We filleted the hybrids for Morgan and didn't get to bed til about 2:30am then got up at 6 and left. Linda, I had to laugh when I read your post and will admit to having eaten many roadkill deer when I lived in the country. There were several times when we hit one or someone right in front of us and we just took it home and cut out the bruised part and ate the rest, lol. It was my biggest catfish but have caught a bigger saltwater red mangrove snapper that I couldn't even lift back when I was in good shape, lol. The deckhand had to hold him up to get a pic.

I agree Michael that there is something about zonal regions and the plant's ability to reseed. However I still think that there are many other types of clematis out there that are much longer blooming and floriferous. The other thing is that this one tends to get so much hype about how great it is and rarely is the possibility of reseeding mentioned. Not an issue if you live in a zone where reseeding is not an issue, but a big issue if you do and don't realize it. I agrees about SAC GG. My plant has not been fertilized in years and even in the drought conditions we have experienced the past two years it continues to do well with no watering by me. It is tough, but reseeds vigorously in my garden. I pulled up another vine just yesterday and have been cutting the seed heads off the plant over the past few years to prevent reseeding. Mine has just finished blooming and this year to help speed up the trimming of the seedheads I am going to cut all vines back by half rather than trying to cut off the tips of the branches. I was going to do it today but it is raining--not that I am complaining at all about the rain here though! Joan, my SAC didn't have any scent for the first two years or so it was in my garden. It does now. Don't give up on the fragrance just yet.

Nice idea, but I too could see it being left open and someone falling in our house, or better yet the cat curling up in it for his nap, (which would be more dangerous for the person that stepped on him!) LOL! We did in our current small basement/playroom what che1sa posted. We turned it into a media/tv center for the kids, low to the ground so that the tv would not fall. We also put in pull out shelves for the dvd's, videos, games etc. I got the idea from something similar I saw in Southern Living mag. years ago. Ideamom are you building now or maybe your finished already?