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The Divorcee: How to Address

16 years ago

I'm out of date! My wedding invitations (early 1960's) followed the etiquette of the day. On them, my mother's name, as a divorcee, was in this form: Mrs. (Maiden Surname) (Married Surname).

Line two: and.

Line three was my father's name: Mr. (First Name) (Middle Name) (Surname).

Then the usual 'request the honour of your presence at the marriage of their daughter...

My first and middle names

etc.

I see there is now newer etiquette. Now the divorcee is: Mrs. (Given Name) (Married Name).

I recently received a formal invitation mistakenly made out as though I were divorced: Mrs. Sue (Married Name). It could have been fine as "Sue (Married Name)" or if they wanted to use a title "Ms. Sue (Married Name)" or, more old fashioned, "Mrs. (Husband's given name and surname).

Thanks to KT, I'm caught up to date!

Comments (21)

  • 16 years ago

    Whether married or divorced, I have always preferred to be addressed just as (first name) (last name). When I was married I had to keep reminding my mom and aunt that when I married I only changed my last name. They kept addressing cards to me as Mrs. (husband's first name) (last name). When someone asks me if I prefer Mrs. or Ms, I tell them I don't need a title.

  • 16 years ago

    Address Etiquette

    Below is a chart which outlines formal wedding etiquette in addressing the outer and inner envelope of wedding invitations.


    Outer Envelope
    Inner Envelope
    Single Guests
    Unmarried female
    Miss (or Ms.) Susan Walters
    Miss (or Ms.) Walters (and Guest)
    Divorced female, uses married name
    Mrs. Victoria Franklin
    Mrs. Franklin (and Guest)
    Divorced female, uses maiden name
    Miss (or Ms.) Shannon Ford
    Miss (or Ms.) Ford (and Guest)
    Unmarried male
    Mr. Thomas Lynx
    Mr. Lynx (and Guest)
    Couples
    Married Couples
    Mr. and Mrs. Paul Freedman
    Mr. and Mrs. Freedman
    Married Couple - woman kept maiden name
    Mrs. Lisa Morris
    Mr. Greg Morgan
    Mrs. Morris

    Mr. Morgan
    Unmarried couples who do not live together - send to the closest friend
    Miss (or Ms.) Michelle Wright
    Miss (or Ms.) Wright

    Mr. Lewis
    Unmarried couples who live together - alphabetical by last name
    Miss (or Ms.) Rose Abbott

    Mr. Timothy Cochran
    Miss (or Ms.) Abbott

    Mr. Cochran
    Same gender couples - alphabetical by last name
    Mr. Bradley Davidson

    Mr. David McDonald
    Mr. Davidson

    Mr. McDonald
    Children
    Child under age 18
    Nothing on outer envelope
    David, Alexis, and Sarah (first names only, oldest to youngest)
    Children over 18 - should receive their own invitation, even if still at home
    Miss Abigail Bishop or

    Mr. Kyle Smith
    Miss Bishop (and Guest) or

    Mr. Smith (and Guest)
    Miscellaneous
    Judge
    The Honorable and Mrs. Al Root
    Judge and Mrs. Root
    Clergy
    The Reverend Donald Pinker
    The Reverend Pinker
    Doctor (medical)
    Doctor Benjamin Fry
    Doctor Fry (and Guest)
    Doctor (PhD)
    Dr. Benjamin Fry
    Dr. Fry (and Guest)
    Married Woman Doctor
    Doctor Susan Goodman

    Mr. Scott Goodman
    Doctor Goodman

    Mr. Goodman
    Married Couple, Both Doctors
    Doctors Robert and Laurie Stephens
    The Doctors Stephens
    Officer - Man (active or retired)
    Colonel and Mrs. Jeremy Scott
    Colonel and Mrs. Scott
    Officer - Woman
    Lieutenant Beth Adams, U.S. Navy

    Mr. Christopher Adams
    Lieutenant Adams

    Mr. Adams

    Please be sure your address list is correct !!!

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  • 16 years ago

    It's nap time!

    Divorced
    Mrs. Jane Kelly
    Ms. Jane Kelly
    Ms. Jane Johnson (maiden name)

    ME??? I don't prefer to be called MRS. MS is my preference.

    And I kept ex last name, being as I have a son and grandson with the last name. Keeping things simple!

  • 16 years ago

    Well, Glenda, it always seemed to me that in the south, Mrs., Miss and Ms were still pronounced the same. A perfect solution for the polite south. It is difficult for a bride to try to understand the rules plus knowing people's preferences, especially when she may not have even met that person.

  • 16 years ago

    I was just stating my preference.

    And I would not be getting an invitation from someone that does not know me.

    I DO pronouce them differently.

    Mrs still to me is married or a widow
    Miss is unmarried
    Ms divorced.

    My opinion

  • 16 years ago

    Just a question on if someone is divorced how they can still be Mrs? I'm soon to be divorced I would prefer Ms not Mrs.

    Nancy

  • 16 years ago

    My Uncle Raoul came to my wedding with his girlfriend Mary. He was a widower in his 80's, Mary about the same age. I know they weren't married, but they may have been living together. He gave us a very large check as a wedding gift. I had trouble sending a thank-you letter. I didn't know Mary's surname. So I sent the letter to Mr. Raoul Lastname and Mary at his address. Better than no acknowledgement, howerver tacky my wording.

  • 16 years ago

    Nancy, when my mother got divorced, she preferred to be called Mrs. Her First Name, Married Last Name. She was of an older generation and did not care for Ms. because she associated it with radical hippies (LOL).

    I prefer Ms. to Mrs. even though I am married, but I certainly wouldn't get upset if someone addressed me differently, particularly if they were inviting me to a fun event like a wedding!

  • 16 years ago

    This is the way I pronounce these
    Ms = /miz/
    Miss = /mis/
    Can't find one for MRS but all I can come up with miz's, which looks the way I would prounce it.

  • 16 years ago

    yeah, but Glenderama, with your accent they all will sound
    the same to me! ahahahahaha

  • 16 years ago

    "Ms divorced."

    Not true. A divorced woman can still be addressed as Mrs. But a MARRIED woman who did not take her husband's name is a Ms. Using Mrs. indicates the last name is not the name you were born with, it does not indicate current marital status. A divored woman no longer uses her ex's first name (she is no longer Mrs. Harry Walker, she is Mrs. Susan Walker).

    I did not take my husband's last name, so I am Ms. Sue Lastname. When we receive invitations to Mr. and Mrs. Hislastname I write my preference in the response (Mr. ... and Ms. ... will happily attend), ignoring their error and the fact that everyone who knows us should know at this point that I didn't change my name (there are a few stubborn holdouts).

  • 16 years ago

    This reminds me of the questions on some forms that one has to answer along with Ms? Mrs? Miss?:
    SINGLE_____
    MARRIED____
    DIVORCED___
    WIDOWED____

    I just check them all, because I have been all of them.
    Why would that be of interest to anyone anyway?

  • 16 years ago

    Men!

    over and out!

  • 16 years ago

    From what I understand, "Mrs." translates to/means "wife of" so in strict etiquette should only be used before a man's first name, not a woman's. Mrs. John Smith means wife of John Smith... So Mrs. Mary Smith would translate to wife of Mary Smith which although often done, is obviously improper.

    If the women's first name is to be used, then Ms. should be used. Widows can use Mrs. (with deceased's name) or Ms. Also, Ms. should be used for divorced women whether they use their married last name or go back to their maiden name.

  • 16 years ago

    sometimes you have to be clever...for instance, my pal (she's 64) has chosen not to marry her bf, of 20+ years, lol...so i address their cards as the smith and jones family...or at christmas and i have to address the cards for dh's office. often he knows only the person, so those cards i address as the jones family...

  • 16 years ago

    recently while I was in hospital,I was addressed as "Mrs." by the nursing staff,even tho my admitting papers stated divorced.

    I kept my married last name as I have been known by most with that name longer than I had my single name

    I "prefer" to be known as Ms. now being divorced,and to be truthful,find it very uncomfortable when referred to by some as "Mrs." still.

  • 16 years ago

    Etiquette has its rules, and they are not always what our personal preferences are. Obviously, from the comments here, chaos rules because we have our preferences and don't give a hoot what the "rules" are.

    For those who wish to be correct, here is a link.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Etiquette

  • 16 years ago

    I think the new sytles are confusing, but maybe the overall message is that a woman's marital state no longer MATTERS -- socially or in business.

    The new Emily Post seems to say that "Ms" can indicate a single adult woman, a married one, or a divorcee.

    After all, "Mr." doesn't change to indicate an adult male, whether he's single, married or divorced.

    Are "Miss" and "Master" gone, gone, gone?

  • 16 years ago

    I prefer either my name without a title (first and last) or Ms. FirstName LastName. I don't feel I should be defined by my marital status. Men aren't. But that's just me...

  • 16 years ago

    Chiuse, I still use "Miss" and "Master" when addressing letters to children, under 18.

  • 16 years ago

    When we got married our invitations read:
    Because you have shared in our lives we ask that you share in our love. Susie Smith and Joe Jones, together with our parents, request the honor..........