Very Narrow Galley Kitchen - Peninsula vs. Island
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please critique this layout---island vs peninsula?
Comments (31)todds- For ventilation we are either going to get a dacor downdraft or a downdraft range (can't remember the brand name of that one). histokitch- I have thought about the corner range. Facing a view seemed to make more sense. mom2lilenj- I have thought about switching the stove to under the passthrough and the sink to under the window. I decided that venting is easier on the outside wall. Also, cooking is done during daylight and washing dishes at nighttime. So I decided that watching the wildlife during the day while cooking makes more sense than looking out the window at darkness while washing dishes at night. And through the passthrough at night you can wash dishes while watching tv and talking to everyone in the living room. So it just seems to fit our habits so much more that the stove goes at the window and the sink at the passthrough. mom2lilenj- I had a cabinet depth fridge at the end of the sink wall for a long time. It stuck out into the aisle between the sink and island. I marked the corner on the floor and practiced walking between the fridge and table and it seemed to me too narrow a passageway with the fridge door closed--worse if open. Visually it really looks uncomfortable as well because it's too close to the table and chairs. It just didn't work well. The other thing is those cutouts. Since they are already there it seems to make more sense to use the cutout space for essentials like pantry and fridge to keep the room as open and airy as possible. I'm not sure a stove could go in the cutouts....See MoreHelp Please-Island vs. Peninsula dilemma!
Comments (37)Oh, and I could be wrong, but I interpreted the second, single dishwasher drawer to be in that position to accommodate bar glasses and such. I was picturing cabinets in that area that would hold glasses and utensils for the bar, and those things would be used, washed, and kept in that area. Regular dishes would be washed in the other dishwasher and stored nearby. If I'm interpreting your intentions correctly, I see no problem with that dish drawer being where you have it. Problems arise when both dishwashers are used for just any dishes, but that's not how I picture it working in your setup....See MoreIsland vs. peninsula....
Comments (19)Peninsula - I love it! It's so much more spacious than having an island in the middle to block workflow. When I started my remodel, like others, I was influenced by the fad of having an island in the middle of the kitchen with seating. Thankfully, the folks here on the Kitchens Forum convinced me that my 11' deep Kitchen could not support it. It took some time and a lot of very unusual layouts b/f I saw the light, but in the end I did. Now, I can't imagine what I was thinking! (Answer: I was influenced by the magazine pictures of pretty islands - not realizing the vast majority of those Kitchens were very dysfunctional! I still see them today all over the place - and they're all kitchens that were designed by "pros"! Seriously? *sigh*) I think a "U" with a wide base and fairly short legs + row of cabs/counters parallel to the "U" is actually the most functional layout. The wide base gives you plenty of workspace & floor space with no obstacles The short legs help prevent the "U" from being an obstacle to good traffic flow through the Kitchen and you are never trapped b/c the legs are too short to trap you The "U" allows you to create a protected area for the Cooking Zone - the legs direct people away from and around the Cooking Zone. Allows for a nice separation of the Cleanup Zone from the Prep & Cooking Zones The row of cabs/counters across from and parallel to the base of the "U" gives you a great place to put the items such as the refrigerator on the perimeter for non-cooks to use w/o getting in the way of cooks...and still have the refrigerator easily accessible for the cooks. In my case, I have an "open" "U" - there's only one wall - along the back of the "U". This means both ends are open and I was able to capitalize on that by: Putting the prep sink in one corner of the "U" - thus utilizing the corner space more efficiently than most corner solutions - far, far better than a blind corner or voiding a corner and even better than a corner susan. Why? Because I combined two of the worst types of storage - corners and sink cabinets - into one and then provided me with deep storage (the deep corner sink base) for long items such as cutting boards - they're stored on their long ends and extend back into the depths of the corner sink base. You only need to reach the fronts of the items to retrieve them, so it doesn't matter where their ends are. (Similar to how tray storage works above ovens in a tall oven cabinet) A cabinet turned 90 degrees in the other corner so the storage is the most efficient. We made it our "Pet Center" and store all our pet-related items there - dog food (in a 6-gallon Popcorn Factory can), dog treats (in a 2.5-gallon Popcorn Factory can), meds, extra collars, leashes, wipes, tools, etc. (Just remember that if you do this, your cabinet should be at least 27" wide to provide the filler space necessary inside the kitchen to allow drawers/doors to open fully and not run into the doors/drawers or knobs/pulls on the other side of the corner. We have 2 seats on one leg, but most people prefer the table - which is just outside the kitchen - table-height seating is much more comfortable! We're in the design phase of our retirement home and I can tell you my kitchen will not have an island if I have anything to say about it (and I will)! I've worked (or tried to) in too many of my friends' & families' island-kitchens to want to subject myself to them! (Big obstacle in the middle, maneuvering around it, barrier islands, etc.) IF you have the space for decent aisles (minimum 48"), room to prevent the island from becoming a barrier, and decent seating overhang (at least 15" clear) - then go for it! But it's not for me anymore! Edited to add: Here's my design w/the measurements: Note: We ended up reducing our kitchen's depth by around 6" (to accommodate plumbing & waste pipe from 2nd floor), so now it's 10'6" deep. +++++++++++++++++ Regarding cabinets over peninsulas - unless you're desperate for cabinet space, don't do it! They're especially bad if you're tall!...See Moreisland vs peninsula in kitchen and hood vent design question
Comments (20)I like this plan a lot. I had sketched it out this way but wasn't sure it was really enough space. Thanks for taking the time to show the dimensions. My one concern about the refrigerator placement is whether of not it will make the kitchen feel "boxed" in when I am working in it. Maybe just when I am at the sink?. Question- could I put the DW next to the refrigerator without struggling with the DW door when it is open? I would most likely house my dishes and silver ware in drawers at that end of the island. It's nice to be able to move things straight from the DW into their storage spots without having to first put them on the island and close the DW door. I like the idea of the pantry. Do you have the space next to the pantry as a coat closet or the W/D? Thank you so much for responding and taking the time to sketch and upload. I am very, very appreciative....See Morerosie
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