Hi Guys! Great conversation! I too, am limited to a depth of about 26.5" (unless I do some renovation) so I'm looking at the GE DCVH480EKWW [which is vented] and the LG DLEC855W [condenser]. I will also be purchasing the matching washers. Both stacked-units get pretty similar reviews at BestBuy, HomeDepot, and AJ Madison- so I should go for the VENTED (GE) set, right? Because vented is simpler and more effective than Condenser-dryer, right? Last question: I was surprised to find that this thread was from 2010. It's 2015 and we're still talking about the same models. I'm concerned that I'm going to purchase these and there will be that big leap in technology that happens every 5 years or so and I'll regret buying them now. Please share your thoughts and ideas. Thanks!

Normclc, Help! I am searching for the 100watt can. Please list a name and model number, please. Or please give a link to the can. I will try to order it. I am particularly interested in this because the thermal protection switch built into the can should stand more heat. Even though I will be using a CLF which produces a fraction of the heat I still don't want the switch to trigger, plus I would like a more heat resistant can. Thanks I did find this government post at www.energy.ca.gov saying that cans will not be greater than 75watts. From: http://www.energy.ca.gov/title24/2005standards/archive/documents/measures/25/25_2002-03_RECESSED_CEC.PDF Lighting: Recessed Lighting Description This change requires that recessed luminaries located in ceilings be designed to be air tight and rated, so that insulation can be in direct contact with the housing. The lighting industry produces a class of luminaire housings called ICAT (insulation contact air tight) that meet this requirement. Furthermore, if luminaires are incandescent, they must be rated for 75 Watts or less. The following is preliminary language to be included in 150(k). §150 (k) Recessed luminaires installed in residences shall meet the following requirements: 1. Shall be rated for "insulated ceiling air tight (ICAT)". 2. If equipped with an Edison or screw base, shall have an aperture not larger than 5" and shall be rated for 75 Watts or less. This measure would ensure that: 1. Ordinary 6" low cost, incandescent recessed "can" lights, rated up to 150 watts ICAT, would be eliminated from the marketplace, preventing socket wattage from exceeding 75 Watts. Builders would be encouraged to employ the most energy efficient halogen PAR20 and PAR30 lamps instead of inefficient R30 and R40 lamps, reducing typical socket Watts by at least 25 Watts. Or alternatively, the contractor might employ low voltage lighting, which also employs lamps of 75 Watts or less. a. Most lighting installed in homes uses R lamps. The 75PAR30 produces as much effective illumination as a 6" can with a 100-120 Watt R lamp. There will be no need to add more cans. b. The low voltage and compact fluorescent options are viable choices for individual homeowners, architects and designers. 2. For situations demanding more light from recessed "can" lights, usually in kitchens, builders would be encouraged to employ compact fluorescent "can" lights, which tend to be more expensive on a unit basis than tungsten luminaires, but competitive to employing additional 5" tungsten can lights, once labor and wiring costs are considered. Benefits This requirement would reduce heat losses through residential ceilings and also reduce lighting energy. Heat loss reductions would result in lowered heating and cooling energy and may also affect the efficiency of HVAC ducts. The change will save at least 25 Watts per recessed "can" light in conventional residential lighting. Environmental Impact The environmental impacts of this requirement are positive, including the increased use of fluorescent lighting in residences, which can increase mercury use. However, local increases of mercury are outweighed by the benefit of reductions in air-born mercury at power plants. Type of Change This change would be implemented as a mandatory measure in §130 (hotel/motels) and §150 (low rise residential). The Residential and Nonresidential Manuals should be updated to explain the requirement. It would also be beneficial for the Commission to develop and disseminate a fact sheet to all electrical manufacturers and distributors, prior to implementing the measure. Measure Availability and Cost All major manufacturers of recessed lighting in the U.S. produce, or could easily produce, products to meet this requirement. Prices, availability, and selection of current products (e.g. Halo H5 family) are consistent with, and to some degree cost less, than the 6" family equivalents. Including trim, costs for builder-grade ICAT can lights are presently about $25 per luminaire more expensive than the non-ICAT lights. PNNL is presently funding the development of residential-grade, compact fluorescent luminaires that meet these requirements. It is strongly believed that a reasonably-priced, ICAT dimmable downlight can be produced using offshore manufacturing to cost within $25 of the current tungsten equivalent (about $75). Useful Life, Persistence and Maintenance This requirement will result in lighting systems that will persist, cannot be easily circumvented, provide reasonable aesthetics and choice, generally enjoy longer lamp life than the base case, and permit dimming. Performance Verification There is no need for performance verification for this requirement. Typical plan checking and field inspection prior to framing will be adequate to verify compliance. Cost Effectiveness This requirement is cost effective and calculations will be performed in subsequent tasks to demonstrate this. For example, consider the following: Assume a home has 500 annual hours of lighting operation at $0.15 per kWh for electricity. A compact fluorescent luminaire saves at least 65 Watts, as compared to a 100-Watt R or PAR lamp typically used in the 6" can, and produces the same amount of light. The homeowner saves about $5 per year for each luminaire. If the cost premium is $25/luminaire, the simple payback is about five years. Analysis Tools This requirement would be implemented as a mandatory measure and no analysis tools would be needed for compliance purposes. For cost effectiveness calculations, a simple "Energy = Power x Time" relationship will be used, coupled with data on typical lighting hours in residential applications, as well as power savings between conventional luminaires and those required by this measure. The benefits of reduced heat loss through the ceiling would be quantified using MICROPAS or CALRES. Relationship to Other Measures This measure is related to other high efficacy requirements for residential lighting. Bibliography and Other Research PNNL research on recessed compact fluorescent luminaires will be consulted. Apart from this, manufacturers specification sheets will provide power and cost data.

For 6", you can get the retrofit GU24 housing that Cree makes specifically for that LED module: Cree RR6-12W-GU24 Housing at Polar-Ray They also make a new construction version. Edit: sorry, just noticed that you found the same one. I would buy one that already comes with the GU24 connector, rather than splicing it manually (why do the extra work?) You're right that HD doesn't carry a suitable housing & you need to buy online. Also, on the dimmer the Maestro CL dimmers also work with these lights - the CL dimmers from Lutron should work the same regardless of style (Diva, Maestro, etc.) If the load is too high (not likely in your case), the next step up is their ELV dimmer, but that costs about five times as much and probably not needed. This post was edited by calumin on Wed, Aug 21, 13 at 17:26

You guys rock. Thanks for the feedback and photos. You really think I should get a dimmer for the hall lights? Hmm... I'll mention that to DH. We're putting a dimmer in his man room. We were going to turn them on and off as we used it. I definitely think it will bug me to have the only hall source not coming from overhead with that long of a stretch. Kmcg - Do you know the wattage or your sconce? For the recessed lights, 6" would be the way to go, right? I saw they had "kits" but they looked different than the stuff being sold separate. I'll have to make a trip to Lowes over the weekend and see what they have. Roseabbey - I was thinking of using 3 recessed lights. I'm glad to hear that will be enough light. These are the photos I had in the other thread. This is looking down the one side of the basement. There's stuff beside and behind me. The wall on the right is 20'. (Count to the 4th column.) There will be a door at the end and two doors on the left. left side