Bryant Thermostat Confusion.....Advice needed please
corradobrit
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Lennox vs Trane vs Bryant
Comments (8)We live in coastal SC and have steamy weather extremes and frequent lightning, power outages and surges, with on again off again power. We own Trane Heat Pumps and Air Handlers, one 3 ton and one 2.5 ton, which were installed 11 years ago by the builder of our house [we are the second owner for 8 years]. We have been told that the heater crankcase has failed on the 2.5 ton unit which would be an expensive repair on a 11 year old unit and we have been advised that we should strongly consider buying new units because of their age. Overall, we have been pleased with these Trane units. Previously, we had Carrier units and were pleased with them. When problems occurred, the technicians could repair them quickly. Service Experts here in coastal SC near Beaufort and Hilton Head has quoted me for a 2.5 ton unit: Lennox Elite XP14 and the CBX27UH, variable speed air handler; digital thermostat, Pure Air Cabinet; 10 yr. parts and compressor, 1 yr labor $6719. Less rebate of 400. For net 6319. Plus To extend the labor 9 years is $1,095.00. Told Tax Credit Available. Lennox Elite XP15 and the CBX32MV, variable speed air handler; Touch screen programmable thermostat, Pure Air Cabinet; 10 yr. parts ands compressor, 1 yr labor $8421. Less rebate of 500. For net $7921. Plus To extend the labor 9 years is $1,095.00. Told NO Tax Credit Available. Lennox Elite XP19 and the CBX32MV; variable speed air handler; 2 speed compressor; Touch screen programmable thermostat, Pure Air Cabinet; 10 yr. parts and compressor, 10 yr labor $11408. Less rebate of 900. For net 10508. Told Tax Credit Available. I have been quoted for a 3.0 ton unit: Lennox Elite XP14 and the CBX27UH, variable speed air handler; digital thermostat, Pure Air Cabinet; 10 yr. parts and compressor, 1 yr labor $8009. Less rebate of 400. For net 7608. Plus To extend the labor 9 years is $1,095.00. Told Tax Credit Available. : Lennox Elite XP15 and the CBX32MV, variable speed air handler; Touch screen programmable thermostat, Pure Air Cabinet; 10 yr. parts ands compressor, 1 yr labor $9003. Less rebate of 500. For net $8503. Plus To extend the labor 9 years is $1,095.00. Told NO Tax Credit Available. Lennox Elite XP19 and the CBX32MV; variable speed air handler; 2 speed compressor; Touch screen programmable thermostat, Pure Air Cabinet; 10 yr. parts and compressor, 10 yr labor $12153. Less rebate of 900. For net 11253. Told Tax Credit Available. Service Experts here state that the Trane XL15I Weathertron 4TWX5030A1 with 4TEE3F39A1 and the XL15I Weathertron 4TWX5036A1 with 4TEE3F39A1 are the same as the Lennox Elite XP15 and the CBX32MV and would cost us the same. They also state that the Carrier Performance "H" series units, such as PERFORMANCE 15 PURON HP CARRIER AIR CONDITIONING 25HPA536H30 FV4BNB006 or PERFORMANCE 15 PURON HP CARRIER AIR CONDITIONING 25HPA548H30 FV4BNB006 are Carriers 3 ton and 4 ton units with a 5 ton Air Handler. They state that a 2.5 and 3 ton unit would cost the same as the Trane or Lennox systems.. Are these Lennox, Trane, and Carrier units comparable and does this pricing sound reasonable. Thank you for your comments, opinions and thoughts....See MoreHaving problems with AC and Bryant furnace
Comments (5)How old is the Lennox AC? Was the coil changed when the furnace was replaced? If yes, then what is the brand and model number of the new coil? It sounds like the furnace air blower speed was increased from 350CFM to 400CFM in an attempt to keep the coil from freezing. My first thought is to make sure the Evolution controller is always setting the air flow at 400CFM. This can be checked in the advanced menu. The problem can also be a low freon charge. A leak may have developed during the installation of the furnace. Did the contractor warn you about this possiblity? Did the contractor suggest changing the AC and coil at the same time? You must have a big house in a cold climate to have a 120,000 BTU furnace. What was the size and efficiency of the old furnace?...See MoreTrane vs. Bryant Dual Fuel Quotes
Comments (8)I bought a dual fuel heat pump system in 2006, and I've been pleased with overall performance. I'm in the Athens, GA area, so my gas usage for winter heat has been extremely low. I was more interested in efficient air conditioning; summer is when my bills are highest. I did a lot of research about the options but NOT about the brands. I've had trouble with my Bryant system. Seems that the condenser in the model I bought was very poor. When I had more problems recently, I asked many very knowledgeable property owners (one owns multiple rental properties) for recommendations; the brand recommendation was consistent: Trane. Here's what happened with the Bryant equipment. The condenser failed after two years. The equipment was still under warranty, so I got a new condenser at no charge. Installing the replacement, however, cost over $700. This summer (six years since the system was installed, four years since the condenser was replaced) the condenser failed again. This time, my dealer was able to use a Bryant program, to replace the entire external unit with an upgraded unit. I had to pay about $1200 for the new equipment (full cost about $6,000), and it comes with a new 10-year warranty. The installation was simpler and cost $300. I am more confident playing $1500+ for a different unit, with a condenser from a different manufacturer, than paying $$700+ to replace the condenser with another condenser from the same manufacturer (not Bryant, a supplier to Bryant). I would prefer getting a Trane unit, but that would be much more expensive. This new unit from Bryant may be reliable, but I am uneasy after my experience with their equipment. The installation cost of replacing the condenser after two years wiped out any savings that the system provided....See MoreTrane va Bryant Quote Chesapeake Bay Area, VA
Comments (4)Onoble I will assume nat gas service is not available. Several questions first. What size is existing system? What size is existing heat strip? there are three equally important components-quality HVAC, the install by dealer, and probably the most overlooked and disregarded is the ductwork system. these are my minimum specs for a new HP system. both outside and inside units should be replaced to have a properly matched system. 15 SEER, 12.5+ EER, 9 HSPF best matching VS air handler full BTUs in both cooling and heating for your rated size R-410a refrigerant(same as Puron) scroll compressor preferred electronic demand defrost preferred thermostat with "dehumidify on demand" feature staged backup heat strips new and correctly sized refrigerant lineset 10 yr warranty compressor and parts you want a thorough inspection of your ductwork system. size, overall condition, supply and return lines, insulation qualities, leak test, etc. any hot/cold spot issues in your home should be addressed. I would only use authorized dealers for the various brands that provide quotes. see mfg websites. I would look at Trane/AmStd,Rheem/Rudd,Carrier/Bryant. For your location/climate,I would not purchase a new HP system that did not have electronic demand defrost. The Trane mdl has it, Bryant does not. Electronic demand defrost eliminates unnecessary, nuisance, and expensive defrost calls. Please note. The Trane quote is for a three ton system, the Bryant quote is for a 2 1/2 ton system. Here are the AHRI performance/eff matching numbers. I am listing both. 2 1/2 and 3 ton fir the Trane quote. � � 4563201 Active Systems XR13 WEATHERTRON TRANE 4TWR3036B1 � *AM7A0C36H31 � 36000 12.00 14.50 35200 9.00 22200 � � � � 4563144 Active Systems XR13 WEATHERTRON TRANE 4TWR3030B1 � *AM7A0B30H21 � 30000 12.00 14.50 28800 9.00 17400 � 3699918 Active Systems LEGACY 13 PURON HP BRYANT HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEMS 213BN(A,W)030****A � FV4CNF002 � 30000 11.50 13.50 29200 7.70 18000 The numbers speak for themselves especially in heating efficiency and the fact that the Trane has demand defrost. On the Trane quote, you want the 803 thermostat or the identical mdl from HW #8321. On the Bryant quote, you would want their Edge thermidistat. Adding a return upstairs plus insulation will help even out temp and be more comfortable. Refrigerant lineset must be the correct size to manufacturer specs if you plan to reuse it. Close does not count. It's difficult for me to believe that a15 KW heat strip as quoted by Bryant is correct. I would like to discuss heat strip size further. Post back. IMO...See Morecorradobrit
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