I was just ranting...LOL But yes.. those sites some of you listed are more accurate than TWC. I was just referring to a quick look at the TV as I channel surf. I really don't have a problem getting accurate weather info. TWC, though, just plain sucks at the temp predictions though. Weather's not truly an issue here -- I'm in SoCal for god's sake! I had maters almost to Xmas last year. Glib: nothing wrong with them at all -- however, even they were off a few degrees. Deborah and harvey: thanks for the links. n2xjk: No. The local on the 8's is for SAN DIEGO and that's for at the coast, so I really don't pay attention to that except for the radar for the whole county. But I'm 20 miles inland... much different microclimate. But, you know the forecasts that TWC has at the bottom of the screen as they broadcast their shows? Well, it has 3 cities within the county. that they show forecasts for----. San Diego, Bonita(about 5 miles inland), And El Cajon.(about 20 miles inland and the city RIGHT NEXT to mine.and has the EXACT climate I have(give or take a degree or 2 at any given minute). So, no. Elevation or distance to hub or ANYTHING would not interfere. nc-crn: I agree. they're pretty good(for the most part) for rain patterns and even telling us that a heat wave is coming. or a high or low is moving in. They just suck at temp predictions for MY area. They're actually not bad for the COAST. But how hard could that be when you have the largest ocean regulating the temps constantly?? LOL Also, sorry to hear you're a Cubs fan. That must hurt. I hurt quite a bit also. No rings of any find for my hometown teamS! Speaking of 84... I fell asleep BEFORE game 1 only to wake up and see it 13-0. I thought the series was over right there. After Game 2, I was CONVINCED it was over. But alas! The Padres won the last 3 and our 1st trip to the World Series was realized. Only the Cubs... mwahahaha! :P Len and Soilent: Yep. The world has definitely become way too automated. Remember hearing stories from an old-timer who said "It's about to rain" because he could feel it in his bones or the steel pin in his knee? Anyhow... supposed to be in the 100's today with humidity rising due to a monsoon out in the Pacific. Yay! I'm going to feel like the rest of Americans in the middle of the summer. ;) Kevin

Suzie, You never know, she might get a thundersnow storm. We've had a lot of them in recent years. I grew up in Texas just about 80 or 85 miles south of where we now live in Oklahoma, but I'd never even heard of thundersnow until we moved here. I won't say we have thundersnow here at our house every year that snow falls, but probably about every other year. We had it last year, and we've already had it this year. Jim Cantore was very entertaining the other night. I'm sure a lot of that is part of the "show" he puts on for the camera, but I also think he was shocked to see thundersnow that far north. The other weather phenomenon we have here that I don't remember having in Texas is derecho winds. The first one we experienced here came during the night with 60 mph winds and hit the house so suddenly and so hard while we were sleeping that we thought a semi-truck or an airplane had hit the house. I also had about 20 flats of plants on the screened-in porch (so it must have been April) and we had to run out and bring them all into the house because the temperature plunged probably 30 degrees in 10 minutes when the derecho wind hit the house. I think we've experienced 3 or 4 severe derecho wind storms at our house since then. The one I remember best, the local met on the TV news at noon told us it was coming and told us if we went outside 5 or 10 minutes before it was due to hit our area, we'd hear it coming like a "mighty rush of wind". Of course, Tim and I went outside 10 minutes before it was s supposed to hit and went down to the road so we'd have a clear view of it coming by looking up the roadway (too many trees around our house). Sure enough, a few minutes later it came roaring towards us like a freight train (we could hear it for a minute or more before we could see the blowing of the vegetation begin) and we went from clear skies to dark grey ones in about a minute as the wind blew through and the temperatures plunged. The other one I remember was a severe derecho squall line with multiple bow echoes accompanied by tons of lightning. This time, the TV met kept cutting into regular programming to warn that anyone working outside needed to get inside by a certain time. Our barn-style detached garage was being built then, and the buys working on it were welding steel beams together. I talked with them about the weather and convinced them to heed the warnings, get down off the structure, put up all their tools and head home. They literally were driving down the driveway when the derecho hit here and the first raindrops started falling, and we sure did have lightning! I was glad they weren't up on that metal framing when it hit. You've got to admit, Oklahoma's weather is never, ever dull. Dawn Here is a link that might be useful: Facts About Derecho Windstorms

My beans are doing well too! But I'm growing a green yard long variety that is amazing! The aphids like them a little too much and they took a little longer to get going, but yummy! These are delicious! Has anyone tried these? I have been harvesting them when they are still small 12"-14" and I am impressed!

Horrible!!!!!!! Beginning tomorrow heavy snow, it will last til Friday. I have a knot in my stomach already!!!!! I know I will worry myself sick.. DGD is supposed to come from Mn to her Daddy's tomorrow night.Will leave Thursday evening. DD Heather is on her way to pick up DGS Drew right now. There is no school, nor daycare and boys Mom has to work. Drew will be in town by early evening. Other DGS Hunter was to be with his Dad and come Thursday afternoon after work. The other grandparents are like 12 miles from me. DD #1 (the boys' Mom) was going to come THursday afternoon after work too. Her and her ex's family with Hunter will have to travel 120 miles cross country! The worst part of the storm is expected to be from Thursday afternoon into Friday afternoon! So now I am worrying about DD #1 driving alone and what if she doesn't make it here? Worrying about DGS Hunter and his dad not making it. Worrying about DGD being on the road (DGD's family goes no matter what the forecast!) They are saying between 8 and 12 inches of snow!!! Winds 35 to 50 MPH! This would paralyze the state and close roads and both Interstates here! D@mn it! I was so hoping for a brown Christmas this year and not have to worry!!!!!!!!!!!