I appreciate the warnings about the chemicals but I wonder if this is just an attempt to get attention for your product. The rules for this forum say "No advertising is allowed in any of the forums." I think you have crossed the line between suggesting a product that might be of interest to forum members (which is OK) and advertising a product that will be of financial benefit to you (which is not OK).

I also enjoyed your inclusion of "To keep this thread active so more will read it, add a small comment." I may be cynical, but I think you are more interested in people reading your advertisement than communicating information about chemicals.

Forgot to meation, my Mother loved using fabric softener and she used a lot of it in her life time.

When I finally married, I hated the way it smelled and gucked up the washing machine. (Kind of a fluck isn't it that after I posted my new thread here I saw the other string within the laundry forum about fabric softeners gucking up machines.)

Also forgot to post what I use instead of fabric softener. This is a repeat that I have made already yet I just wanted to post it here again.
I have always used my own (water/vinegar/+drop of my favourite essential oil) in the fabric softener holder, as it helps greatly to rinse away lingering detergent in the fabric, which is the main cause for stiff and static clothing when it is dried.

***The vinegar rinse also leaves your washing machine cleaner, as it rinses soap film that can build into soap scum that breeds mold, and it doesnt add the addition guck that fabric softeners add.***

****Plus changing your detergent if it is hard to rinse clean, can benefit too, I have always used an all natural cleaner, or a free, sensitive detergent. Both of these suggestions will help fight the mold. I always use cold water washes, and use drops of tea tree oil within a wash to help disinfect, instead of bleach.****

(Just be cautious with silk clothing; as vinegar can cause the silk protein to change from the way you first purchased it. I have used a vinegar rinse on my mulberry silk duvets without any problem. Yet a vinegar rinse caused one silk blouse to change into a sand washed silk appearance, instead of its purchased shinny silk look, not sure why? As vinegar has been known to clean and pretreat silk for dying.)

Last but not least I love the dryer balls, and even used tennis balls in the dryer before I purchased the dryer balls. They really help with additional fluffing up fabrics.

(If you already went to the link above it also meantions to use a ball of wadded up aluminum foil in the dryer to cut the static cling, something I have never tried.)

There are inexpensive and better choices the Fabric Softerners.

Going to repost the above link so you can actually click on it. After reading the first page, click on the link that is in that page for an in-depth look at the health dangers of fabric softeners.

Again, Happy Healthy Laundering!!!!

amigo Karen

Oh sorry oregpsnow,

I just included the PS thing, because when I came to this forum, I couldnt log in as just Karen, but since amigo wasnt used I took it. I just wanted to let people know why I took the log in name amigo. As I write occasional notes to my sponsor child, and receive her Spanish translated notes back. Plus I drink the amigo charge every day for my health.

The amigo charge drink isn't a laundry product, and Im only a person using a product, wanting to help others to use it for themselves. I don't retail sell the product like a business. Yet after losing both of my parents, and my husband lost both his parents to cancer, I am concern for people's health. I work part time, minimum wage, at a pharmacy store post office, I haven't returned to my full time work because I was a victim in two car accidents.

My post office counter this week is right beside a huge display of fabric softener on sale, and I am also near the pharmacy counter. Since I cant tell people at work about the dangers of fabric softener without risking my job, I thought of doing it here at this laundry forum, as my heart is so distressed watching people picking up the jugs of fabric softener, and then watching the line up of people at the pharmacy counter purchasing their drugs because they are sick.

I have in the past tried to sell health products from my home, and I have spent some money in advertising, I had never ever made my advertising money back. I assure you oregpsnow that my little plug of drinking amigo charge, will not make me rich. Yet if one or two people that have used a ton of fabric softener has a health challenge and wants to give up their fabric softener and try drinking a health product that will help a little, that is the only reason I included the PS. plus if I happen to get a small kick back because they choose to drink it, I'll use it towards the sponsor of my amigo girl.

Sorry to make you think that I was trying to get rich by this forum.

Amigo Karen

I now understand why oregpsnow thought I was advertising, I did say I have started to sell a health drink. I should have written "I have started to 'SHARE' a health drink". I don't have products at home that I sell and ship, I only 'SHARE' how others can purchase the same health drink for themselves.

amigo - If you're having financial difficulties, may I suggesting drinking plain old grape juice? Not only is it many times cheaper and readily available, but it has been shown in numerous reputable studies to provide all of the health benefits claimed, but NOT independently verified, by your "super" fruits. Then you can refrain from plugging your products as well so your posts won't read like an infomercial. Best of luck.

Adios, Amigo.

aliceinwonderland,

Yes, I know about drinking grape juice. My mother was Italian and when we didn't drink a glass of red wine, we drank grape juice before anything else with our meals. So I have had a great share of delicious grape juice throughout my life. In fact I would have never thought my mother and my father would ever die of disease, because my mother made wonderful, healthy meals, hardly ever going out to eat, and hating fast food. So I know their disease came from other things around them. Since I want to be healthy for my family I try and find bad things to avoid and additional good things to take, to help me with the war against disease. I mainly drink filtered water, green and oolong teas with cinnamon sticks, apple cider with cinnamon sticks, pomegranate and grape juice. But thank you so much for recommending grape juice, for everyone else it is a great juice to take as it is a wonderful antioxidant.

Now that I have listed all the things I do drink, maybe we can have some comments on what I truly posted on. I only added a small PS about something good I have started to share, yet the rest of this thread was about the huge dangers of fabric softener. Really are people that bent out of shape with a small suggestion of something good to take. Yet not bent of out shape with the idea that our whole society is brainwashed to put fabric softener in their rinse water?

Since I see no way of editing my already posted thread, if someone knows how to get this thread off please do. It actually makes me sick with the way people like to point a finger at what another is doing wrong. Since that has become the main issue here.

You know, people need to support one another more, take a look at the "March of the Penguins" movie, do you know how all those penguins survived deaths cold, where no other life has learnt to survive? Well they each take turns blocking the dead cold wind from each others backs. The inner circle of penguins were never told by the outer circle, hey youre getting something were not, because they know, their time will come when they would be in the inner circle getting warmed, and those that were warm would be in the outer circle once again.

See our world is just a bunch of fighting seagulls instead; just looking to make sure that the seagull beside them doesnt get the extra scrap of food. It is really really sad, how people can only find the negative to comment about. If I didnt know the dangers of fabric softener, and came here and read this, I would just be glad someone came and posted it. Not say, oh look they added a small PS about a health drink, so they are just thinking about their own self profit.

My true intention was to help bring awareness of a bigger problem as my heart aches with the ignorance of peoples ingestion of poison, and the growing number of deaths among our loved ones. My mother, father-in-law and mother-in-law all passed on within 22 months of each other, all with sudden quick growing cancers, if it can happen to them, it can happen to any of us. It all has to do with the water we drink, the air we breathe, and the things our bodies ingest from the chemicals around us. Things like the huge ongoing use of fabric softener.

I found this laundry site through a Google search. I have been posting for a few weeks now, and have never added a PS before. Yet like I have already posted I just couldnt handle watching the fabric softener going so quickly at work, without trying to say something to someone, and since I knew about this laundry forum I thought of added a thread of friendly warning. Yet I cant believe I have to keep writing a truce about my small PS of a health drink, as I just wanted to include about something good I knew about too.

When I went on the thread about Charlies Soap, it was a plug of something good, how come no one is upset that they are making sales because of that. I just dont understand people.

Anyway I am tired of trying to defend myself here. I wont be back.

Amigo Karen

Oh PS - asolo - thought adios was goodbye, so goodbye.

The link is a recommendation from aliceinwonderland,
here's to your health, it is way better then fabric softener!

Amiga, the reason your post is advertising/spam is because YOU are the one selling the product you are plugging in the thread. Those of us talking about Charlies Soap, BI-O-KLEEN, Persil, Tide, etc., do not directly benefit from the products' purchase.

I realize that everything after your first post was a way to sidetrack the advertising issue, but you employed a typical tactic that some use by posting supposedly useful information only to end with a "PS" or other such verbiage with your contact information and how to purchase the product from you.

I am reporting this thread to the forum moderators. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.