People take B12 for energy boosts but it rarely does that to me. Sometimes I can notice a sense of healthiness the next day after taking the pill or when I sometimes do the liquid (also kept under the tongue). My doctor does very thorough blood work so I monitor the levels once or twice each year. They were having trouble getting the dosage right for my Thyroid medicine so I had to do a lot of lab tests in the course of a year so I got to double check my vitamin levels often. I was told by another doctor that sub-lingual was not as effective as injection. There is even a medical hot line where you can ask a question and they will call you back with the answer within a week (I think it is operated with Med students). I asked the question there and was told that sublingual is a third less effective, or more. But, you can take a pill every day if you need so I think it works out fine. In my case it wasn't giving myself the shot it was the amount of stuff I had to inject into the muscle that was a problem. Now all I have to do is take one pill per week. The liquid B12 is usually near the pills at the drug store, if you don't want to take a pill.

Most often, it's this time of the year, after a winter without getting much light/sun. Sandy, [above].. got to the point with her greenhouse. We need more real sunlight. There was a talk about light, in 1987, Billy Meier & ET Quetzal, scroll down to just below 156 in link. some of the talk... through the changed lighting conditions and, thus, through unsuitable, artificial light. Stomach and intestinal troubles as well as serious stomach and intestinal diseases can be the result, as well as bad depressions and aggressiveness and also dizziness, nausea, blurred vision, and a general functional impairment of the immune system. Here is a link that might be useful: Contact Notes

Yes, the unfunded liabilities are going to be the death of Detroit. All they have to do is stop paying the GM or Chrysler or "Fords" pensions, and all of Michigan dies. Those pensioners have vacation homes "up north," where tourism is the whole economy. Actually, they just have to stop payiing for retirement health care and we get the same results. My previous DH's dad lost his pension when Jones and Laughlin (later, US Steel) reneged on their pension obligations to the northern Minnesota taconite miners. He got a fraction of what he was supposed to get because the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation had to take over paying the miners their pensions. He worked his whole life welding the mining equipment, built his home debt-free as he had the money, raised four children, and died gasping from the lung damage he got from his job. How well do you think the Pension Guaranty folk are going to do spreading the money around when it isn't a few miners and steelworkers, but several industries at once? What is dragging at the economy? Perhaps the unfunded war? The gears are grinding slower and slower and I just hope we have not already lost too much momentum. Has anyone else read The Sheep Look Up? Didn't John Brunner predict well how a confluence of errors and neglect could do us in? I'm just on a real downer tonight. DF-in-L went back to the hospital and is just not coping at all well with unexpected health problems.

Comtesse thanks for your thoughts. A nursery bed is not a bad idea although it will need some initial investment. Also it won't help so much with giving roses an advantage since roses will need to be uprooted to be planted in their final spots. May be pots embedded in a nursery bed? Have to give this more thought. Can anybody join in with ideas? I don't know if lemons can have any long term acidifying effect in a compost. I suspect no. They should be a good source of potassium though. I have been known to dump rotting citrus in my compost pile. I would never add uncomposted lemons directly in the mulch. <Start O/T > We go wayyyyy back with the Germans at least back to 1832 when the powers the be installed a Bavarian prince as the King of Greece after Greece gaining independence from the Ottomans because they couldn't trust the Greeks to rule themselves... Well to be honest, many Greeks wouldn't trust other Greeks to rule them but that is another long story. The below link makes interesting reading.. King Otto of Greece (Btw, of sociological and cultural interest is the below pic depicting a 'greek revival' monument constructed in Munich in 1862 commemorating some of this stuff. Please compare the essence and psyche, not the superficial form of the architecture with the original Parthenon.... To me this pic carrries lot of significant connotations) Propylaeen in Munich <End O/T> Summers, I only buy bare-roots since I have to import most of the roses (as it stands now I cannot import anything bar the ones already paid for...). Great roses you're getting, I think some of them are not easily available in Europe. Yes, Daisy lives in Crete, although I suspect she may be facing half the problems since their income may be coming from the UK. That's only a guess though. I tend to feel very positive towards people who have volantarily adopted my country to live in, regardless where their income comes from and who learn to appreciate the good and bad things of life over here and have a good thing to say about the country and its people. I wish I could live in Crete btw.