What you are supposed to do with that kind of promotion is pay Garden Web for ad space.

Thanks for the advice. Cool, I have wondered why they bother but I guess it is just advertising Ang I agree with your father. I have seen those ads and you see in small prints that a FICO of over 750 is often needed. One time a credit union worked better, another time it was the dealership. I do think things have changed with financing as I posted above, now they do get a cut so they want you to finance with them but I agree that except in advertised offers, they will try to steer you higher if they can and pocket the difference unless you show them a better offer. However that is on the interest rate, not the price of the car. My needs are very specific such that at any point I can only buy one or two cars that are out there so if there is an incentive great, otherwise the last time my lease was up and I needed that car and nothing else was as good an option. Luann, I totally believe you got a good deal I have never traded in before. On my last car I could not buy 2 year old because the model with 8 seats was not available until 2004 when I bought my car (I have 5 children actually back then it was 3 plus 2 on the way!). The model I am considering also was not available as currently equiped before this year. When I buy a car I go to the various web sites, including any enthusiast web sites such as Sienna Club. Org. They usually have an area where people brag about their best deal and I will usually try to match it. I will pay one visit to a dealership I do not plan to buy at usually the full service high pressure one so I can test drive and see the car and find out which options are definitely available (sometimes they are listed but are not regionally available, avoids the cannot get it nonsense that salesment pull). Then I will go to the various dealer websites within 50 miles. If they give you access to inventory I will check out their inventory. At this point based on the MSRP listed I can tell which cars have the packages I want in their inventory. The reality is if they have 4 blue minivans with leather and only one with cloth you can probably get a better deal percentage wise on the one with leather (assuming you want that). I will then contact whatever dealerships have a decent amount of inventory or are known for discounting. Then I will pay a visit to various dealerships in the area to see what I can get in person from the ones with lots of inventory of the specific car, package and color I want or that I know from experience really will discount. If it all possible I will deal with the guy in the booth rather than the salesperson. I always take the wholesale cost breakdown with me, knowing it is not the true invoice because there is usually a holdback of 2% of the base price Also I have noticed that Edmunds TMV price should be ignored. It is usually higher than what I have paid One thing about the inventory, sometimes things are listed but are not for sale, owners wife is driving it and it will be a demo in a month. So just because the gray is listed, it might not be there when you get there

TGIF to all! Susie, I'm really happy for you, glad your dream is happening! Annie, please give the B-Day girl a hug and tell her I'd love to buy her a drink...maybe next time I get down your way. You can probably get all your chores done because that's you...I know I couldn't! Diane...my healing prayers to those you are visiting. Obxgina... party on! Alexa, sounds like a bust Sat but rest on Sunday. Have fun! Lyra, hang in there! Are things still busy at your work? Linda, the only thing I can say about the cool, wet spring we are having is that the perennials are looking their best ever. Hey Gina...have a really good weekend! Ellen, you may need to rest up on Monday! Pat, I hear class reunions can be fun...haven't gone to any of mine. I have met up with some former classmates on Facebook though... Since I have to work every weekend, I have no plans! Kim is going to Ohio for her nephews HS graduation while I slave away. My weekend are now on Tues and Wed. and I still have deck planters to fill on Tues. It's been either too cold or raining on my days off so the plants are waiting for me, but they want to be in their new homes... The summer people are returning, it's been getting steadily busier at work. News Flash.....we have an occasional poster...mostly lurker (according to her) that stopped in at the store last weekend and introduced herself to me. It's MrsJack here on GW and she was really sweet. She lives across the state from me and I've encouraged her to post more. Gloria....Hi! Nancy

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