Hancock & Moore leather 'City Sofa' -- I have questions
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Comments (2)Hi John, I think we spoke on the phone a couple times about this one. Just to clarify a few of your questions (then I'll step aside and let others answer): Hancock and Moore Grades start at Grade 1 (least expensive) and then go up to Grade 5 (most expensive). They vast majority of hides sold are Grade 1 and 2, and then a few 3's. The grade has nothing to do with durability or protection, its strictly a pricing category. Any hide coming out of Europe will be a higher grade due to the strength of the Euro in relation to the US Dollar, and specialty leathers like Buffalo will always be a Grade 5 for the fact that there are not that many Buffalo hides to be sourced. There is a Serviceability index on each H&M hide showing suitability of use. This is also a numeric index series of numbers and a 1 is commercial, a 2 is residential use, a 3 is limited durability and a 4 means you better not touch it except in your pajamas with no food, drink of newspapers within ten feet of it. 1's are pretty rough looking, plastic-feeling and not very handsome. 2's are where most people buy, its 'wipe and go'. 3's are suitable, but don't expect the piece to remain looking brand new, it may absorb some grease stains or show scratches. 4's are the Lambskins and Suedes .. be careful. The Buffalo hides are priced at 5, and have a 3 Serviceability. They are very cool hides, a real treat. Tears/splits/rips are really a non-issue for the most part. You have to have a knife or screwdriver etc. in your hand or pocket to rip the hides - they're tough. It should be noted that H&M to the best of my knowledge is the ONLY leather house that will accept a sofa back for repair in the event of a damaged hide, and they do not charge labor to repair - only the cost of the materials. Thickness of the hide is really only a concern on tailoring. Thick hides like the Buffalo don't lent themselves going around tight, stylish corners as well as thinner hides. Its all about your lifestyle and what you can accept as the piece ages. Everyone has a different tolerance for wear and tear. Regardless of the hide, the piece will easily go twenty + plus years in my experience, and it will just be the visuals of the furniture as it ages. About 1 in 100 of my customers that buy a 'un-protected' leather (in reality, they all have a teflon coating on them so they're not totally unprotected) come back at a later date and tell me they wish they had gone with a protected hide. On the other hand, about 3 of 100 that went with the protected hide tell me later they wish they had gone with the more luxurious, more natural hides! Hope that helps explain it some. Duane Collie...See MoreHancock & Moore Red leather Sofa
Comments (5)Red Ahh that lovely H&M Chancellor sofa I feel fortunate to be the owner of that sofa - It is 4yrs old purchased at local furniture store in Stamford Ct - I have the receipt somewhere, I think the orig purchase price was nearly 9K & we got it for $4,500 Outdated living room pic - I think color is cognac it took several weeks once we placed the order This is a super comfy, durable, well made sofa Here is a link that might be useful: safavieh furniture...See MoreHancock and Moore City Sofa
Comments (2)City Sofa is a good, mainstay item. Sits well, fits most body types. Classic design. Its available on the Town and Country Promotion in Cavalier "Henna" and "Mocha" (class 2 leather). Every dealer sets their own price, but in that promo I sell it at $ 1,999 (shipping addt'l). If you can use those colors, Cavalier is a superior leather to any of the Class 1 hides. That's the killer deal on the City Sofa. Second part of the Promo gives you the other Cavalier colorways at a price less than Class 1 leathers. While $ 2,600 isn't a bad price, you can do better in Cavalier (assuming your local dealer met the buy-in requirements in the Town & Country Promo) than staying in a Class 1 hide. Nicer leather, less money -Duane...See MoreHancock and Moore City Sofa Leather too shiny...any solution?
Comments (3)As you use the sofa, some of the 'oils' and tanning agents will dissipate and it will dull down some, but (there is always a BUT!), thats a sign you need to clean and condition the sofa which will also restore the sheen. So its a Catch-22. I have to say that across the line, Hancock and Moore makes exceedingly comfortable furniture. There are not too many pieces I've sat on that are not comfortable. Perhaps some of the period pieces in full-button tufted are a bit rigid, but thats about it. Don't forget that with an H&M you have a lot of built-in protection for your sofa that you don't get with other brands. First off, send in your warranty registration and Jimmy Moore will make sure you get a gift package of usable items in return. Next, under heavy use you may "sack-out" the cushions in 7 to 10 years. If you do, simply contact your dealer or H&M in Hickory NC, and they will send you a new set at no charge other than perhaps asking you to pay the UPS charges. Finally - and this is something no other company does - regardless of how long you own your sofa, should it ever need a leather repair, or make a squeak, or break a spring, H&M will repair at no labor cost to you. There are only charges for the raw materials and shipping. This is a significant benefit, as a torn vertical edge in leather means the whole sofa has to come apart, and while the leather might only be $ 50, that labor charge is worth $ 400 that you are not paying. H&M is also the only upholstery company that I know of that will repair its own pieces regardless of age. No other company will take items back unless they are near-new and under the warranty. Enjoy! Duane Collie The Keeping Room...See Morerobinzone6b
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