>>> Pot. Kettle. Black. --- Refers to the aphorism: "the pot calling the kettle black." Used when indicating that a person is accusing someone else of something the accuser is him- or herself guilty of. I think you miss the point of that idiom, or you are buying into a modern distortion - unless you are saying we both behave the same way, eric. Both the pot and the kettle are black. Here are some similar idioms in other languages: # Bangla: à¦à¦¾à¦²à§à¦¨à¦¿ à¦à¦¯à¦¼ সà§à¦à¦à¦°à§, "তà§à¦° পিà¦à¦¨à§ ফà§à¦à¦à§" ("Mesh sieve tells the needle", "You have a hole in your back") # Bulgarian: ÐÑиÑмÑл Ñе ÑÑÑбел на ÑÑÑбел. ("Nick laughed at dent") # Chinese: "äºåæ­¥ç¬ç¾æ­¥", "ä¹é¸¦ç¬çªé»" ("Soldier who fled off the battle fifty steps afar mocks those a hundred steps afar.") # Croatian: Rugao se lonac loncu, a oba crna. ("Pot mocked another pot, and they were both black") # Dutch: De pot verwijt de ketel dat hij zwart ziet ("The pot reproaches the kettle for looking black") # Estonian: Pada sõimab katelt - ühed mustad mõlemad ("The pot reproaches the kettle - yet both of them are black") # German: Ein Esel nennt den andern Langohr. ("One donkey calls the other long-eared")

Good morning Judy... glad you to have you with us! I am relatively new as well, at least on the DL forum, but have very much enjoyed all of the wonderful people here. I too admire your resiliance(sp?) regarding the hurricanes. It takes a strong person to get through all of that and continue to look at the beauty in life! Glad to have your input, the more lively folks that spend time here, the shorter the long days of winter will seem! Julie

OK Bill, first of all I live in the North Bay (Marin) gets a bit warmer here than Sausalito, Tiburon or SF, so I dont have that much fog. If it does happen to roll this far north, it usually clears by 8 or 9:00 am at this time of year, it is rare that we get it though. The warm season up here isnt as long as yours. It starts to get chilly at night here in October. It seems to me the plant started going dormant late Sept, early Oct. Secondly, I did write down the numbers correctly but there may be something else on this label that would probably make sense to you so I will type exactly what it says. SPECIALTY FERTILIZER GUARANTEED ANALYSIS TOTAL NITROGEN (N).................. 0.15% 0.15% Nitrate nitrogen AVAILABLE PHOSPHORIC ACID (P2 O3)... 0.85% SOLUBLE POTASH (K2 O)............... 0.55% SOURCE POTASSIUM NITRATE PHOSPHORIC ACID It says to use it all year around everytime I water, aids in blossoming. One bottle cap in each quart of water for normal watering or misting. Use half-strength for orchids. This stuff is called Eleanor's VF-11 and the company is out of Santa Cruz.If you can figure that out, good for you! My husband is an accountant and he couldn't figure out the percentage either, he did say that I had read it right though. Any other info you have for me would be great, maybe I will just go out and buy the fertilizer you recommended earlier. I think it might be a little too late to feed my plant at this point, what do you think? Thanks for all the help Bill. Leslie

Hmmm...I'm torn about what would constitute a good book forum. Just MHO, but I think there can be an intimidating factor that is off-putting on some book forums. As I mentioned in my post above, even my best friends and I don't always agree on what constitutes a good book. But because of our history of friendship, we don't feel hurt or harshly judged when someone says, "that book didn't do it for me." It's especially hard to convey a difference of opinion when it's delivered in a post. Sometimes I re-read things I've posted which I've meant to sound funny or wry, and am worried that my tone might have been misinterpreted. So how about this - For now, how about a thread where we can list books that we've enjoyed recently, and some of our all-time favorites? Without giving away too much, we can give some general info and maybe alert people if they contain coarse language/graphic violence/sex, etc. I mention this because my MIL often passes on "CSI"-type mystery novels that she enjoys to me. I'm not especially prudish, but I do a lot of my reading at night instead of watching TV and I've found that reading books with disturbing themes like child abuse/decapitations/rapes, etc. are too disrupting to my sleep to read at bedtime. What prompted my OP is that I just finished a heartwarming read and was looking for something good to start on. Seeing a list of what you've all been reading is a good place to start looking. I'd already been thinking about "Snowball" that gina w mentioned above. I may download a chapter on the Kindle to check it out. Do any of you have other suggestions on how to approach starting a thread?