Builder violated code...what now?
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Why would builder not want me to use another source for tile??
Comments (18)Bottom line is I believe he IS getting a kickback from his tile people. He told me the other night he needed to be paid for taking care of the materials and guaranteeing them... bull I know. He even said he would have to charge me more if we bought our tiles from the designer! He said we were getting into cost plus territory I spoke with my designer and told her that he would be calling her and that if he wants to add his "kickback" so we could use her we would go for it. I just went this am to see his tile person. The woman they use is a sales person. She is NOT a designer. I brought a list in with me to see what I would pay for each piece. I did not get that when I went in... but was assured I would not be paying the retail price on the tiles. So I assume based on the amount I purchase I get a discount. No one told me how much. I love both my designer and my builder and do not wish to give either of them up nor do I want them at each other's throats. I selected them each for the expertise. Both of them are excellent at what they do and I love what I see coming from both. I apologized to both of them for not introducing the two of them before hand. My Designer told me early on to let him know that she also sells items such as tile, counter tops and interior surfaces. I could have sworn we did. I think he forgot. Just got back from seeing his tile person. I went through the entire house and found pieces that were comparable to my decorator's plan and some were actually the same. (everyone has their own marble and travertine for instance) I actually found a few things I liked better particularly for a back porch area which I had yet to address with my Designer. What they don't have and I know they probably cannot get are the decorative accent glass pieces and backsplash I fell in love with. I was told that they are limited to specific companies. So I would never be able to get those pieces from them. What I plan on doing is having both of them total their tile up for the rooms. I may have to decide who we will go with after that. But I am leaning towards buying most of it from his tile place to make him happy and let him know I am going to buy specific glass accents or backsplash tiles from her. I am not sure how that will go over... but I will want I like. And if his Tile people don't have it then he will have to accept that. Our Builder gave us a fixed price to build the whole house and then added in some of the extras that we were doing ... cost for a custom staircase that he is building, stone frplace that he is building (still don't know if that includes the materials!), and for the extra glass and doors to enclose our LR and DR. Then he gave us a sheet that specified his allowances. He didn't even specify our countertop prices (said granite) and we had to call him for that price. We choose this builder specifically bc he does all his own wood (cabinets included). And the work is ALL custom done bc he has his own woodworking shop. His woodwork is stunningly beautiful. His contract gave us the allowances... $3.50 for tile per square foot which is LOW. And we will be going over. So I do not understand why it matters where we go to him. He did NOT specify ANYWHERE in the contract that we had to use HIS SUPPLIERS. He said it was assumed based on the contract. (Sorry that doesn't cut it!) Bottom line. His tile lady said we will not pay the price that was on the front of the tiles. We would get a discount. She said he does NOT get a kick back from them (something that some builders get... you pay for the tile and when he picks it up he gets a rebate or a commission fee back from the tile company). But for all I know they could be lying. All I want is what I fell in love with....See MoreSan Diego Pool Builder
Comments (28)Mission Pools - Stay away Our familyÂs personal experience - I called into Mission Pools back in April this year to request a repair as part of my tile on the right face of my Mission Pools spa was falling off. I explained this exact sort of thing had happened some time ago (2005) on the left half of the Spa and was repaired after my initial call as a warranty issue in 2005. Now they refuse to repair the exact same of problem under warranty on the right half of the spa and have e-mailed me an excessively high quote for repair of $5,000! This has now become a health and Safety issue as tile is unstable and a hazard to children and adults alike and a liability to our family and Mission Pools as Mr. Dunn (Owner) and their service department are aware of the situation. I have been down this road once before at the time of the construction with Mission Pools. The Spa needed to be completely rebuilt (jack hammered out and completely reformed) due to a poor workmanship, structural issues and irregular forming. I had to go to war with them then and apparently I do now. Bruce Dunn wonÂt give you the time of day until you file a complaint with the California contract licensing board  Stay away!!...See MoreCross-post: Being jerked around by spec home builders?
Comments (10)A couple of quick thoughts: 1) If I were you, I would explore what it takes to get your "earnest money" back. Your best leverage is the willingness to walk away from the deal. 2) You should not allow yourself to be held financially responsible for their realtor's mistakes. 3) The rush to have you make decisions is a calculated (or at least well practiced) attempt to get you to make mistakes and agree to things you wouldn't otherwise. 4) You should require your realtor to stand up for your interests rather than (hint, she'll do more if you threaten to walk away from the deal) 5) If you go through with the deal, I would strongly suggest a pre-drywall inspection. I would have little confidence the builder isn't cutting corners on the build. 5) This sounds like a crappy situation with numerous bad actors (the builder, the realtor(s), and likely the subcontractors working on your home), but to get an acceptable outcome, you need to take ownership of the situation. 6) If you're enough of a pain, stand up for your rights, talk about a pre-drywall inspection, lawyers to force builder to perform, they will likely be willing to give your deposit back....See MoreArchitect or builder designer ?
Comments (21)Amy this site is not for you to pick up work. That's called spamming. Not appreciated by us regulars. I reported you on this thread and on one other I've seen. Randy, If architectrunnerguy said that to you, it's because he reads all the threads and keeps up but he does NOT advertise at all. He is a true professional and while he didn't design my house, he did help me redesign my master suite area before my house was finished being designed. His suggestions made my master suite work so much more efficiently. My guess is he wanted you to be sure you want to work with an architect before getting together with him. Although I'm just speculating. Flo the problem with Randy's plan is that he might have his parents move in permanently and the plan suggested by the builder did not take into account his parents living with him....See Moresoutherncanuck
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