electrolux or miele induction cooktop over wall oven

13 years ago

We want to replace our freestanding range (30 in) with an induction cooktop and single wall oven. I do not like the induction ranges.

We have been looking at the combination of Electrolux top / single wall oven, which is approved to be put together.

Also the Miele combination.

The Miele looks better imo, especially the wall oven, BUT the wall oven is 2x the money.

We tried our hands on the Miele induction, but found the controls very difficult to use. No experience with Electrolux yet.

What are the pros and cons ? What would justify the 2x price for the Miele wall oven?

Does anyone have experience putting an induction cooktop on top of a wall oven?

Thanks

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country_smile

13 years ago

We have the Miele Induction over a Miele oven. I am pleased with both appliances and would buy them again.

It took a day or two of using the controls until I discovered I was actually pressing too hard, but now with a slight touch or "rock" of the finger it's on. Someone commented once that for the price you pay for a Miele they'd expect it to be the easiest thing to use but, really, a 1 or 2 day learning curve is no big deal.
"The Miele looks better imo, especially the wall oven" - I agree.. function and form.
Is it worth 2x the money? That's for each person to answer for themselves after they take into account things such as what they want the appliance to do, how often they use the appliance, their budget, the manufacturer, etc. I paid full price for the cooktop, but the oven was around $1200 or so off because it was a floor model.

We have the 36" cooktop over the 30" oven and it still has a smooth look. Our cabinet maker adjusted the top drawers (only) on either side of the oven to accommodate the wider cooktop.

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attofarad
13 years ago
I'm no help on your oven question, but I'm wondering what you found difficult about the controls. Was it the design of the user interface, or did you have trouble getting the touch controls to respond to your touch?
bhoublon
Original Author
13 years ago
I would touch the controls - lightly, heavily, short, long and 50% of time nothing would happen. For my wife it was worse. The salesperson said that it was not a correct installation (not on full power) but that should not matter for the controls. However he was able to make it work, maybe it is just me.
Interface looks good.
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appliancemonkey
13 years ago
Miele def not worth the 2x price.
Electrolux induction cooktops are best value in the
industry. Really nice, great performance and they don't kill your wallet.
weedmeister
13 years ago
There is no strict requirement that the cooktop has to match the oven.
wizardnm
13 years ago
Our E'lux induction cooktop was just installed the day before Thanksgiving. I didn't even have time to read the user guide before I started using it for cooking our Thanksgiving dinner. It works great and I am in love.

I roasted our turkey in the 30" E'lux Icon oven, also in love with that...the turkey was perfect. We have the oven installed in the wall under a E'lux Speed cook and a warming drawer installed under the cooktop.

I can't imagine any appliance being easier to use.
bhoublon
Original Author
13 years ago
weedmeister,

is there a list of approved combinations from vendors?
I want to be sure that I do not void the warranty, if the wall oven fries the cooktop.
weedmeister
13 years ago
Vendors have no motivation to test the competitions' units with their own. I mean, GE is not going to say, "Sure, don't buy ours, buy from our competition!"
herring_maven
13 years ago
bhoublon wrote: "Does anyone have experience putting an induction cooktop on top of a wall oven?"

Yes. We have an LG induction cooktop over a Bosch wall oven. Both work very well.

Review -- VERY CAREFULLY -- the installation instructions for the Electrolux induction cooktop.

The dimensions may have changed since we looked at them, but all of the Electrolux cooktops that we looked at required a large vertical clearance under the cooktop above any obstruction, partially because the cooling fans for the cooktop vent under the counter. The LG induction cooktop fan vents above the cooking surface (at the rear), and therefore (and, perhaps, for other reasons as well) the LG requires only a couple of inches of clearance under the counter where the Electrolux required more than a foot. I think that the Miele, also, has relatively little under-counter clearance requirements.
bhoublon
Original Author
13 years ago
Thanks for your feedback, appreciated!
bhoublon
Original Author
13 years ago
Looking at the installation instructions of electrolux, frigidair and sears, I find this note:

"Only certain cooktop models may be
installed over certain built-in electric oven models.
Approved cooktops and built-in ovens are listed by
the MFG ID number (see the insert sheet included in
the literature package)."

However I cannot find this "insert sheet" online. Does anybody have it and can post it here?

Thanks
macybaby
13 years ago
My elux cooktop required 4" clearance underneath, however you are suppose to mount the wiring 12" below the unit, and you need to have the clearance in the rear for that.

I found the instrucitons misleading - it did look like it needed 12" clearance but in fact it was showing the location of the electrical box.

Ours could be mounted over an elux wall oven, but we weren't going that route so I never looked much into it. I'll look at the paperwork I have when I get home and see if it says anything more about it.
macybaby
13 years ago
This is what came with my Electrolux induction cooktop.

The following electric built-in oven models bearing MFG ID E94446 and Product Code B are approved for installation under the counter with an electric or gas cooktop mounted above . . .

It then lists these ovens
E30EW7 series
EW30EW5 series
EW27EW5 series

The rest is a list of suitable cooktops that can be paired with that.

Induction
E30IC75 series
E36IC75 series

Don't know if that is very helpful or not -
bhoublon
Original Author
13 years ago
Thanks for your help.
EyeForget
12 years ago
Note re the Miele Induction cooktop over a Miele oven.

That's a nice installation. Would you please post the Miele model numbers. The cooktop appears quite deep or your counters are narrow. We have the 36" cooktop with standard 25" counters and there's plenty of room in front of it and behind it. The oven does not look like any Miele oven we, or our dealer has ever seen. They did not make an oven with black from side to side until 2011. That oven has a large piece of stainless on the bottom, a large stainless handle and a stainless control panel.

Also, how did you snug the two together so nicely? The oven needs to be 4" below the top of the cooktop. Are those 4" thick countertops?

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