Tips for Miele oven owners from our Miele service guy
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Comments (2)The Miele cooktops I've owned have been nothing special, especially given their price. Good, trouble free units but not really worth a premium. Wolf's CT36 is a nice gas unit that is comparable in price, even though it's higher advertised price. For me it boils down to burner / control arrangement and the "feel" of the knobs or buttons....See MoreCalling all MIELE Chef and Master Chef oven owners
Comments (3)I have the Master Chef 30" oven for almost 2 years and I haven't used the Master Chef settings once. So...of course that means I would say if you can buy a Miele oven without the MC settings, you'll be fine. Maybe one of these days I'll have to try it out. larsi said she didn't bake often, but I do bake often (mostly cookies, breads and pies) and my Miele oven is better than any other oven I've ever used, which was a surprise to me because I didn't think there could be a noticeable difference from one brand to another other than the extra features and the price. But, I've found the performance to be excellent and consistent, paired with good service from Miele. (total of 4 Miele appliances) When I read other threads about Miele oven owners having problems or non-Miele oven owners making negative remarks about the oven, I usually don't respond because my goal is not to sway someone's opinion into buying one brand over another. Everyone has their reasons for their appliance choices. Personally, I'd buy another Miele without giving it a 2nd thought. I have another oven at my baking center at the other end of the kitchen and how I wish I would have just sprung for two Miele ovens (even though I only use the 2nd oven 1 or 2 times a month). DH knows how much I like the Miele and our plan is to replace it with a Miele if it starts to be problematic, or we'll wait a few years and just change it out for a Miele. Maybe we'll get lucky and find a nice display model for a tempting price....See MoreMiele Oven Owners: convection vs surround
Comments (16)I found this in a thread on Houzz that I have used as my guideline. I used to use surround where I would use “Bake” but switched to convection bake following the below. I have had very good results. I still use surround for lean breads like sourdough and where heat source doesn’t matter such as baked potatoes. If you have the M touch I use their automated programs like Baked goods/cookies or cakes. Hope this helps! Miele Oven Modes When I first got my oven the Home Economist at Miele in Princeton sent me the following: MASTERCHEF OVEN COOKING TIPS When baking, if a recipe calls for 30 minutes of cooking time or less, use CONVECTION BAKE and chose the same temperature as indicated in the recipe. Baking time will be similar to the recipe. (Cookie baking is an example of this.) If the cooking time is over 30 minutes, choose CONVECTION BAKE and turn the temperature down by 25 degrees. Again, cook the item for about as long as indicated in the recipe. (Quick breads work well with this technique.) SURROUND is a mode which does not utilize the convection fan but instead heats from the bottom and top of the oven. Use SURROUND ROAST when preparing meats that benefit from a long slow cook time, such as pot roast or brisket. SURROUND BAKE works well for meringues, soufflés and any delicate baked good that would not benefit from the blowing of the fan. INTENSIVE is considered the "brick oven" mode and is the hottest of all the bake modes. The radiant heat from the bottom of the oven sets the crust while the convection heat melts the cheese. This is a perfect setting for pizza. "Homemade Pizza, the Intensive Way" is a recipe on the website that showcases this mode. The BAKE mode uses radiant heat from the bottom of the oven and can be used for such items as boxed cake mixes. For cooking roasts and whole birds, AUTO ROAST works well. It is a convection program which automatically sears meat at 450 degrees F for about 15 minutes and then drops down to a default temperature of 325 degrees or any temperature you select to finish cooking with Convection heat. By inserting the roast probe into the meat and setting it to an appropriate internal temperature (you can look in a dependable cookbook for these temperatures), the oven will beep and shut off when the roast is done. Foods that usually take a long time to cook are finished in a much shorter time when using AUTO ROAST. For example, a 19-pound unstuffed turkey will take about 2 1/2 hours to cook on AUTO ROAST as compared to about 4 hours in a conventional oven. "Turkey with Giblet Gravy for the Holidays", "Beef Tenderloin", and "Roast Pork Loin" are recipes on the Miele website which describe the AUTO ROAST mode in more detail. Use CONVECTION ROAST for smaller cuts of meat and poultry and for fish. The temperature and time suggested in any dependable recipe will work well. When broiling, use the BROIL or MAXI BROIL mode at a high temperature. Let the oven preheat for about 10 minutes. When broiling something thick like a London Broil, CONVECTION BROIL will cook the interior as it broils the top. I use convection bake for cookies and there is nothing wrong with adding minutes if whatever you're baking isn't quite done. It's a great oven, but you still have to manage your baking/cooking no matter what appliance you have....See MoreMiele 24” Steam Oven vs a 30” Wall Oven
Comments (22)I think you'll be absolutely fine with just a CSO. There certainly are advantages to having multiple (different) ovens. But it's not something you could do without. We are very fortunate to have three ovens in our kitchen: the CSO, the SpeedOven, and a 30" gas oven in the Bluestar range. While I don't use all of them all the time, having three ovens is extremely convenient when hosting large multi-course dinners. It's a game changer in making sure that every dish is ready on time. It's not unusual for me to have a dozen different dishes/sides, and time management gets complex when preparing all of these. But if that's not something you do on a regular basis, then obviously you wouldn't benefit from making this choice, and the space and money savings of only buying a single CSO can go to good use elsewhere. There are a few things that make me use our gas oven instead of the CSO. It has a much bigger cavity. This is rarely needed as I tend to debone all my roasts whenever possible and a deboned 20+ lbs turkey is so small, it would easily fit into the CSO. But when I do need this much space then it certainly is nice to be able to make use of it. Also, it has the most amazingly super-powerful broiler element. It's as close to a commerical salamander as you can get in a residential kitchen. We use it several times a week just for that. Can't get any better toasted bread any other way. Finally, while the CSO and the SpeedOven are a bit of a pain to keep clean, the gas oven doesn't show splatter as much nor does it get damaged by splatter (this is a little bit of a worry with all the complex components in a CSO; I don't want to clog the fan, the steam ports or the drain). So, whenever I prepare particularly splattery food (e.g. roasted pork belly or even just the aformentioned turkey), I prefer the gas oven. But that's mostly a question of using the best tool for the job, and with three different ovens I make a different choice from what you would make. You might just need to spend a little more elbow grease making sure your CSO gets cleaned thorough when cooking more challenging ingredients. On the other hand, there are cases that would make me strongly prefer the CSO over my gas oven. The most obvious one is any time that I am making smaller servings. The CSO preheats within a few minutes, whereas my big gas oven takes between 20 and 45min to be fully preheated. And of course, there are countless recipes where a CSO is the objectively superior tool, as steam injection is so incredibly useful. I am still discovering new uses on a regular basis (e.g. made haggis from scratch for Burns Night a few weeks ago). And I have favorites that I don't know how I ever managed without a CSO (e.g. making a big batch for fresh gnocchi). A downside with the CSO is that it doesn't cool down quickly. This can be confusing. If you are used to cook items by putting them into the cold oven, then cooking times will be very wrong if somebody used the CSO right before you. My family regularly makes boiled eggs in the CSO. Works amazingly well, fool-proof, and you can get the eggs to exactly the hardness that you like. But if the oven is still hot, this doesn't work the same. That's gotten me yelled at once or twice before :-)...See Morekitchendetective
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