Any chance you can just lasagne it over with a layer of newspaper, some new soil, and mulch, and then plant into that now or in spring? You may be able to do without either chemical. Others here do use them though and may be able to advise whether to plant before or after the pre-emergent. Don't know your zone, so don't know the ins and outs of spring vs fall planting. KarinL

I don't think spot treating is going to give one an attractive wildflower meadow. Its going to look clumpy - IMPO. And most bulbs are not native, not sure if that is important to your planting or not. Round up is not as safe as claimed above. IT can hurt animals, particularly fish and amphibians, when not used correctly. I do think roundup is safer than most other herbicide alternatives, but it needs to be used wisely and in accordance with directions. If you are starting with lawn, I would either smother it with newspapers and mulch and plant the area in plugs. Or I would kill the area with round up, wait a few weeks, mow the dead turf off and then overseed the area with a quality wildflower mixture, right into the dead turf. You can get quality seed mixtures from places like Prairie Nursery, Prairie Moon Nursery and Ion Exchange. Those are US sources, you may be able to find a Canadian equivalent. The Prairie Nursery website contains some good instructions on how to prepare a site. I would suggest you read that also.

I am planning on laying down a three-inch tamped solid base of sand underneath the pea gravel. I need to dig down four inches to do so, and I am considering tilling the top three or four inches of topsoil and gravel, which have been compacted by construction. What I asked is if it is a bad idea to use a tiller on that ground, considering the inch or so of loose gravel that is on top of it.

I have 12"x12" books that have protective pages with white inserts. I makes my pages by combining colored paper or colored paper with design paper...depending on the theme and photos...and glue my photos, die-cuts, stickers, etc. onto the colored/design paper. I slip the completed pages into the protective cover on-top of the white page. Not even sure why I decided to do it this way?? Probably because my first scrapbooking began when I decided to make starter books for the grandparents and so when I make new pages, I can send them and they can insert the new pages into their repsective books. Remember, so many great and famous people have said, "NO question is a dumb question!"