wall ovens mounted in base cabinet

14 years ago

We are doing a new build and I will have the Aga 6 burners over 4 ovens as my main stove and ovens - however for holidays when I will need that extra oven I was planning on installing the Blue Star 30 inch French Door oven in a base cabinet. Has anyone had any experience with a wall oven mounted low. I picked the french door model because I though it would help with access. Your thoughts on doing this. Thanks.

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plllog

14 years ago

Most people don't like using a wall oven mounted under counter if they have a choice. It's generally lower than an oven in a range. There was some discussion awhile back about the french door issue. I'd be scared of it below counter. Have you checked the installation specs to be sure it can be done?

The problem is that when you open one door the other opens at the same time. Very convenient when they're up where you can see them, but a potential hazard down amidst people's legs. Additionally, you won't have that open oven door between you and the cavity, and it's too easy to get distracted and move a leg too close. Even if you're good with that, it's still very low. Since you don't intend to use it a lot, and since you'll be used to using the small lower level ovens on the Aga, I doubt that would be much of an issue for you, however.

Generally, drop down doors are for lower ovens, and side opening doors for higher ones, though very few side opening doors are currently on the market. They used to be common. Nowadays they make the dropdown doors to cover the whole oven rather than just the cavity making them even harder to reach over if they're waist high, or above the waist on a double oven.

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oldalgebra
14 years ago
I am hoping someone will speak to this as well. I'd like to put in a wall oven at waist height, but can't see putting in anything but one with a french door, as reaching over the door seems awkward and just a tad dangerous.
Any Blue Start wall oven users out there?
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remodeling1840: The oven I want to install like this is a combi steam oven. The advice elsewhere on this forum is to not mount those under the counter, as tempting as it may be for space considerations, because when you open the door after using the steam or steam bake modes, a burst of steam comes out going more or less straight up! Aka, where your face is if you're stooping down to open an oven. D: A typical installation for this kind of oven is in a high cabinet, and we could do that, but it would be nice to have a passthrough space/landing zone under it. The normal space for a high cabinet is at the end of a run of counter, but that's already taken by the other wall oven. On the other end of the run of counter is the pantry cabinet and the refrigerator. We don't want to stack the ovens because that usually limits you to two ovens from the same brand and it would put one or both of the ovens too high or too low for comfortable use. As for space, we're not doing regular upper cabinets because my experience over the past 20-odd years has been that I hate working at countertops with wall cabinets over them and will go to some fairly extreme lengths to avoid doing so, so it's not displacing a wall cabinet. I'm fine with having the oven on the wall (edited to add: in spite of my declared dislike of wall cabinets) because I won't be using the area under it as a work surface, just as a landing zone. I suppose we could mount a single 24" wide wall cabinet there instead, but we'd still need somewhere for the combi steam oven. Mounting it under the counter would steal some of our precious, precious drawer space - we're doing a mostly or entirely drawer base cabinets kitchen. That's not accounting for the steam in face issue, which is another reason to not put it under the counter. We're working with a pretty constrained space and we care a lot about ergonomics/ease of use, which is why I'm looking at some out of the ordinary solutions.
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mayhem2008
14 years ago
For whatever it's worth...
I don't even know what a french door oven is, so I can't comment, but I have an older wall oven mounted under counter and I hate it. It's much lower than a range -- you have to bend down just to read the dials, let alone pulling something large and heavy out of the oven. Really inconvenient, in my opinion.
dannie
14 years ago
I have the opposite experience. I have a wall oven mounted under a counter top and wouldn't have it any other way. I don't find it too low to pull things out and the oven door is down low, out of the way. I would be afraid of burning my arm on the door if it was at waist height. Each to their own I guess.
mcmann
14 years ago
OK I have both for what it's worth. At home we have a 27" Dacor double wall oven. The place we built as a vacation/retirement home is much smaller and I didn't want to give up my pantry for a wall oven. So we put a 30" GE Profile wall oven under the counter on the island, adjacent to the downdraft. We haven't had any problems with using it. It doesn't get the work out that my home ovens due but we've used to make everything from Thanksgiving turkeys to pizza.

It's at the end of the island so that there's plenty of room to access the inside. I honestly can't say that pulling a heavy roast pan out of the under counter oven is much different than taking it out of the bottom of the double wall ovens. Obviously you have to bend down a little more but it's not big deal.

My only complaint has nothing to do with the under counter location. It's just that I'm so used to having 2 ovens at home I don't have to worry about juggling different cooking times and temperatures like I do at our vacation place.

I think the drop down door might be easier than the French door. You won't have to worry about bumping your forearm on the door.
country_smile
14 years ago
I have an undercounter oven and a wall oven in my kitchen. I do like the height of the wall oven but the undercounter is not a problem or inconvenience for me. I use the undercounter oven the majority of the time because I like the oven more and think it's a bit superior to my wall oven. They're both drop down oven doors. If the person using the oven has back problems, the undercounter oven may not be as easy or as comfortable for them to use.
letter100
14 years ago
I have a wall oven now with the top of the door at 4'' above the countertop. When we remodel I choose to have more counter space and put the new oven below. I use the oven about 3 times a week and think it will be fine there. There is no way I would want a french door oven. I would be afraid of accidently touching the hot doors with my elbows when removing food out of the oven.
jn99
14 years ago
We had an under counter wall oven in our last house and while it's not my first choice for placement I never found it to be too terribly inconvenient. It is essentially the same height as a range oven - not sure why people are saying anything different.
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14 years ago
Honestly, if the Aga with its 4 ovens doesn't provide enough baking space for you, perhaps it is not the range you need for your kitchen. If you are a professional baker and need more capacity, then reworking your layout to provide that capacity and more functionality would be in order. Otherwise, eliminate those too small ovens on the Aga in favor of a range that will provide you the oven capacity that you need without an additional side oven.

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