Hi Scottfsmith Good that you said you are not sure what i am looking for. Sorry if i wrote it little hard way it. I have found shop which sell peaches. Red heaven was variety as i said earlier. So i started to look information about peach varieties. We here Finland do not have a lot of peach varieties available, i think this is quite new thing this Peach growing here. I have found shop in Italy which sells peach trees. In it internet site it says any plant anywhere on title and registration page has place to choose country. So i think they might ship it to here. On that site i saw peach varieties. Glohaven, Redhaven, Cardinal, Babygold 6, Springcrest, Springtime varieties was listed which are from U.S.A. (Many of them). Those varieties which i posted describtions above. So i did to search peach variety describtions english and then also italy language, which i translated to english using Google translate. I tried to get information about them, where they grow, how hardy they are, what they taste, when they bloom, oh and yes maturity timeline. Not much information available from mine country, but something. I asked some way does someone have own growing experiences. I have seen some post here about people growing peaches, i remember your old variety post, one people from Colorado asking peach varieties, i think she onemilehighgirl, sorry if i wrote id wrong (I think that came from woman) has Cresthaven peach and also that North Dakota people having peaches, altought he, Troman1973 id if i do not remember wrong last time i remember thought moving into blueberries. I found it hard to find some variety describtion on internet, especially Cardinal. Frost is little easier, but some hard finding there too. Cardinal variety From Georgia U.S.A. if i remember right. But found this on it : Cardinal medium fruit with bright red over yellow skin; flesh is yellow, firm with a melting texture; freestone from Georgia. Early midseason harvest. Springtime is white flesh peach. As i said i haven't tasted white flesh peach so i asked what is taste like. I have found now on internet they are sweet. Yellow flesh are more acidic. Can you tell me what "acidic" exactly mean? Is that same kind of flavor than red currants? Sour, no i think. What kind of acidicidy they are referring? Here is some peach variety describtions : http://www.harvestwizard.com/2007/06/peach_varieties_there_are_more.html I looked that Italy site, because they have more peach varieties, which are not available (I think so) here. Springtime, Springcrest varieties seems to be earlier than Red haven. I think it might cost more to buy trees from Italy, but if there is some good peach varieties it might be worth a try. Other choice would be just stay here and buy peach here. What you think about Peach hardiness? I have seen USDA zones and chilling units on internet. I have read that post on peaches here in Gardenweb, i think it make sense many ways. I have feeling that it is important peach to have enough time to ripens fruits and hardening to winter. As that post says hardiness is more than zone. Springcrest has 650 chilling units requirement and i have seen it to grow on the following places : Alto, Georgia, U.S.A (Ripens 5.6.-12.6. when i wrote that down, but looks like this information is no longer available.) . Brentwood, California, U.S.A. Also saw picture from Australia. This variety is for sell in New Zealand. I found Springcrest also to be in recommendations list in Georgia peach and nectarines for home use in different Georgia zones. Zones 4 and 5 says page, which is southern Georgia, U.S.A. for example Tifton, Geogia U.S.A. Here is the link : http://pubs.caes.uga.edu/caespubs/pubcd/C741-W.HTMl Cresthaven was for zone 1,2,3 on the list. So looks like things are not as simply. Above i mentioned just that there is many things to consider, if you have something lack, maybe you can justify it by another thing. What firmness means in peaches? http://www.caes.uga.edu/commodities/fruits/gapeach/varieties.html Says Springcrest is high firmness. I think it means peach do not go soft and holds it's form good way. Did i got it right? Correction to mine message, i wrote New Zealand has opposite season (Altought i do not see at this moment orginal message.), i meant opposite season compared northern hemishphere. New Zealand is located in southern hermishphere. Thanks of book name but i looked in it google and you seemed to be quite right about that it is hard to find. Eskota hi Thanks of book name. I looked little bit in it and found 1 peach variety describtion.

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