24" wall oven: Gaggenau or??
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Comments (16)Thank you all so much for all the advice and reassurance(s)! I'm going to call both the BSH showroom tomorrow as well as Gaggenau. (Although my experience with Gaggenau has been less than satisfying: before I received the ovens I called them asking for the 30" double wall oven specs [for the cabinetmaker] and they sent me the specs for a Thermador double wall oven. When I called / e-mailed back, they were genuinely bemused: "what's the problem?" is a direct quote. Ahem.) You know, I haven't run the self-clean cycle because the interiors (neither) are dirty. (We're vegan, so no meat spattering or whatever.) Good thought. When the first repairman came (to clean the few pieces of styrofoam fluff from in between the two panes of glass) he checked everything to make sure no other shipment damage had occurred. There was a problem with the vents (on the bottom of the two ovens), but he replaced the gasket (I think it's called), tested it and said it was okay. But honestly, what do I know? I'm not an oven specialist .... Good question, homepro: I have not baked in the bottom oven because that's where we have the trays (not racks). I've pretty much solely used it for proofing (I bake our bread). I'm making pot pie tomorrow so I'll try baking that in the bottom oven. Of course, for me it's cookies which give the truest indicator of the uneven baking (in the top oven). Even with my moving the sheets midway through baking (from bottom to top rack, turning them around, etc.), I still find the cookies unevenly baked / colored. It's harder to tell (I mean it's harder for me to tell) with my other baked goods. I'm not sure where our (independent) oven thermometer is ... excellent suggestion! I do use the Gagg "info" feature (which tells me the oven temperature at present), but if the sensors are off, then so are all bets. I didn't think the altitude could be a factor but, you know, grasping for straws to explain why I'm having problems when everyone else has written how their Gaggs are baking nirvana. And mindstorm, you are v kind. I assumed you meant something with the ovens, but I have thin skin. (I know! I have no business in this medium.) I'm usually able to keep it in check when online (where it is way too easy to misconstrue others words), but I was at a weak moment when reading your penultimate post. Thank you for making the time to respond instead of rolling your eyes and saying "get over yourself!" I am really encouraged about tomorrow (Monday), calling and hopefully getting somewhere in ensuring an even bake. I know it sounds slightly churlish, but after spending so much money on these ovens (and I think they are v. expensive) it's ticked me off and disappointed me that the top oven bakes unevenly. I do still think it's ridiculous that they don't have the smooth-gliding racks and that for two ovens they only provide two racks, but I'll tell you I am still gaga for Gaggenau's side-opening feature! Thank you everyone for all the information and encouragement that I can have even baking! I appreciate it so much. I'll post back to let you know what I find out. Fingers crossed. Thank you....See More24 inch ovens --Gaggenau?
Comments (5)sayde--got your email although i was puzzled that you were able to email me? Here is a pic of my 24" Gagg in my 27" cutout which replaces my now defunct 27" combi. It looks a little strange now but will look fine once my trim kit is on. I replaced my oven with the SS instead of the Aluminum which is what I had before (the same as the microwave underneath). I will replace the microwave with SS when it dies. The combi is the best--even though my first one died an untimely death. I would still buy it if I had to do it over again. It will not replace a regular oven, IMHO. I would not hesitate to install a 24" Gagg oven with a 24" Gagg combi over it. Especially if you are short on space. These ovens are the berries. I have a Wolf range with two ovens, but my combi is the workhorse in my kitchen for everyday cooking. You can replace lots of the things you do even on your cooktop (corn on the cob, pasta, etc) with the combi. My larger oven gets used mostly for baking. Let me know if you have any other questions. P.S. For anyone else interested. The new combi is slightly deeper than the old combi but the old trays still fit, so it is essentially the same size. A few other improvements that I have noted that I will post when I have the time. My favorite--A drip catcher tray on the bottom of the door so that drops of water do not end up on the floor when you open the door. Here is a link that might be useful:...See MoreGaggenau side opening 30" wall oven
Comments (10)My 2 cents: Your first resort should be to call Gaggenau!! That shouldn't happen! Mine is perfectly clear. It's concerning that there was stuff between the panes from the start. There may be a flaw. And since it sounds like the styrofoam is still there, they might even do it on their dime if there is a problem. As to the trays and racks, what are your questions? I bought extras for the most flexibility, but it's not necesary. I find the baking trays so useful that I never use my old ones. I use them for making everything from kale chips to choux paste puffs (like the outside of cream puffs) to meatballs to roasted chicken. For the last, I'll put the chicken on a wire stand, and pour some leftover wine or something into the tray with some herbs. The tray is big for the purpose but helps contain the splatter. :) The only drawback is that they don't fit in the dishwasher, however the enamel is very easy to clean up, and if it gets dire it can go through the self clean cycle. If one has several of the trays they can be loaded up at once and cooked on multiple levels with convection. Even the puffs come out fine that way, with the trays fairly close together, though I was worried that, like souffles, they might not like the convection. I haven't tried a souffle on the Gaggenau convection, but it might be that it's gentle enough for that too. For broiling meats, I like to use a cast iron grill plate on the wire rack, but I use the meat tray occasionally with a big roast, and, of course, with the rotisserie. The rotisserie is great! Again, with the caveat that some parts have to be washed by hand. My biggest problem is getting the wire racks clean. That baked on brown spot stuff, that's good for seasoning a cast iron pan, is nearly impossible to get off (I won't use harsh chemicals and haven't found a good trick yet). I use them just like the racks in any other oven. The middle for a casserole, low for a big roaster, or a big pot on the center, and shorter things on the bottom position. If you don't have multiples, you can use the baking tray with the wire rack. Say, put a roaster or large casserole on the wire rack in middle position (perhaps, old style, with a cookie sheet under to catch drips), and sides and pies on the baking tray underneath, just like in an old fashioned oven. Or you can use the meat tray as, essentially, a wire rack. And for multi-level baking, like cookies or hors d'oeuvres, you can put cookie sheets on the wire rack and meat tray wire rack. When I do three level baking I do top, middle, bottom, and for two level I do the in between positions. I don't know if that's "right" but it works. I've also don't top-middle and middle, and that worked fine too. All in all, I'd suggest you just go for it. Think of something you want to cook and just do it. What I love so much about the Gaggenau is the amount of control I have over it. I haven't had anything come out badly (nothing that was the oven's fault, that is), which definitely wasn't the case with my old oven. Re figuring out the settings, there's a method to the iconography. Do you have the current model with the screen? Or the previous model with the knob and icons? The symbols are similar, but I don't remember off hand which settings the latter has. In general, line on top is top heat and line on bottom is bottom heat. Partial lines mean just in the middle. Fan is convection (outline fan is light off convection). Wiggly line is broil. Smaller wiggly line is broil just in the center of the oven. Snowflake is defrost. Bread loaf is for rising bread in cold kitchens, and can also be used for things like plate warming. Stack of dishes is keep warm. The rest of the settings are combinations. I haven't had much luck with the temperature probe, but I'm not good with a meat thermometer either. I do much better cooking meats by time. I do have to look at the manual to set the probe, though, especially if there's a shut off time. I don't know if any of this is useful to you, or if you just need more experience with the oven to get a handle on it, but, really, do at least call Gaggenau and talk to them over the phone, and start off the conversation with the styrofoam. there's something wrong about that....See More24 vs 27 inch gaggenau combi steam oven?
Comments (4)thank you! I bought the 27 inch! Now to rework the kitchen plan... I also bought a gaggenau 36 induction cooktop, was thrilled until I read all the installation issues midwestgal is having. These were discontinued items but advertised as having the full warranty. At least my kitchen is still in the paper stages. I'll have to see if I can find a 27 inch regular convection gaggi to stack with the combi steam, I know they are discontinued also....See More- 11 years ago
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