YEAH!!! Linda, I forwarded what my tech friend said to Carla, she called Charter, so it's possible they looked into it after what I said to her. For anyone wanting to know.. I gave my friend the link to that print screen I posted of Carla's. Apparently Charter & Verizon use a DNS Assist feature on their DNS servers. Basically, what a server with that installed will do is this: If a user whose machine queries that server types in an address (like www.gardenweb.com) that the server is able to query successfully, it loads up the page, and you see nothing out of the ordinary. If it can't, it runs a search for similar pages (usually by punting your request to Yahoo! or some other search engine), like what we saw in the link of Carla's error that I posted. Her error suggests one of the following remedies: - Change her DNS server (and she'll need to call Charter for that) - Clear Firefox's private data (easy enough to do, even for a novice) - Scan for anything on her computer that might have eaten at her HOSTS file If all three fail, Charter needs to be told that their DNS server is misfiring on that site...but odds are that Charter will not be inclined to listen. More likely, Charter's DNS information needs to be updated, which is a Charter problem anyway. I then told him what Linda told Carla.. he then thought it was a problem on Charter's end. I'm not sure if Linda & Carla both use the same DNS server for Charter.. that would be one thing holding Carla up is if they don't. Hopefully with Linda back on, Carla will soon follow (I hope) If anyone else is having issues: He suggests dumping the private info as I posted above & unplugging power to the modem & router, then reconnecting and rebooting. Not sure where Carla is. I emailed her a while ago, so far she hasn't responded. I do hope that this is the end of it all. btw, if my tech friend is reading.. thank you very much for taking the time today!

Sammy........ I am sorry you did not find more nurseries and gardens listed for your state. I think that is an indication that the site is under-utilized in your area or that gardeners in your state are not familiar with the site. HMF does not advertise and is not supported by advertisers, but is supported by site users through premium-memberships, nursery sponsorships and donations. People find out about HMF by word of mouth, mentions in articles as the references used for the article, by nurseries listing their inventories and pointing customers to HMF to find out more about the roses they carry. In my former life, I used to be a construction accountant. Every time I changed jobs, I had to learn a new accounting program. It's the same on the internet. HMF is designed to be a tool for research and an archive of information about roses that are currently in commerce or have gone out of commerce. It takes time to learn how to navigate a new site, but I do think HMF is worth it. Connie is correct, when people list their gardens, it provides more information to other site users about the roses that grow well in their area. When even small nurseries lists their inventories, it helps rose lovers find a source for roses that may not be readily available in your local neighborhood. When site users share their experiences about how a rose performs in their gardens, those COMMENTS are archived with the rose page. All of this information can be found without having to wait for a response from other site users. However, members of the rose community play an important role in answering questions on the Q & A, providing more information about a plant's performance and, yes, catching errors. As nurseries like Vintage close, having those gardens listed on HMF will create a valuable tool to help save the roses that are not easily found in commerce. Smiles, Lyn

Probably not a list that would be useful to anyone else. But, from Firefox Troubleshooting Information, I'll show you my current list. Notice that some of them are disabled. Name Version Enabled ID Adblock Plus 2.5.1 true "d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d> customize_titlebar_v2 0.7 true customize-titlebar-v2@solc.me Disconnect 3.11.0 true 2.0@disconnect.me Download YouTube Videos as MP4 1.7.18 true "b9bfaf1c-a63f-47cd-8b9a-29526ced9060> Element Hiding Helper for Adblock Plus 1.2.3 true elemhidehelper@adblockplus.org Firebug 1.12.6 true firebug@software.joehewitt.com Google Search by Image 0.3 true google@hitachi.com ReloadEvery 17.0.0 true "888d99e7-e8b5-46a3-851e-1ec45da1e644> Show Go! - Updated 1.0.3.2 true showgo-updated@supernova00 Stylish 1.4.2 true "46551EC9-40F0-4e47-8E18-8E5CF550CFB8> UAControl 0.1.3.1 true uacontrol@qz.tsugumi.org WOT 20131118 true "a0d7ccb3-214d-498b-b4aa-0e8fda9a7bf7> YesScript 1.9.1 true yesscript@userstyles.org CacheViewer 0.7.6 false "71328583-3CA7-4809-B4BA-570A85818FBB> Clear Cache Button 0.9f false "563e4790-7e70-11da-a72b-0800200c9a66> DownThemAll! 2.0.16 false "DDC359D1-844A-42a7-9AA1-88A850A938A8> Ghostery 5.1.1 false firefox@ghostery.com Greasemonkey 1.15 false "e4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781> Ubuntu Firefox Modifications 2.7 false ubufox@ubuntu.com

I am getting this same error in Safari. Here is the whole deal: Bad Request Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand. Size of a request header field exceeds server limit. Cookie: (...elided some stuff...) s_pers=%20s_nr%3D1239905861917%7C1242497861917%3B%20s_cpm%3D%255B%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239905833928%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239905853478%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239908092267%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239971744012%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239971828375%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239971839485%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239971971122%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239971977235%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239971993689%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239972005421%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239972023985%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239972031361%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239972763830%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239973957876%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239974474610%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239974485287%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239974603519%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239974610116%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239974675531%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239974692654%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239974712068%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239974725921%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239978972928%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239978979596%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239979069300%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239979079929%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239979189371%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239979197472%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239979204436%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239979222744%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239981690275%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239981705222%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239991588203%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239991596698%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239995677664%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239995684086%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239999487016%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239999497723%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239999510807%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239999515834%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239999538157%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271239999552880%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271239999571631%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271240000794025%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271240000886590%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271240057539681%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271240057586064%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271240057916559%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271240057952580%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25271240064240752%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Typed/Bookmarked%2527%252C%25271240085711140%2527%255D%252C%255B%2527Referrers%2527%252C%25 Apache Server at wsecspx027-02.nbcuni.com Port 80 -- it looks like it is putting too many of these bookmarked things in the header. s_pers is a cookie which is either for ads or for monitoring site usage. I can temporarily solve the problem by clearing my cookies but it comes back. I have written two error reports to GW but have not heard anything. For now I have switched to using Firefox to navigate GW. Scott