Well, today I bought an Electrolux French door counter depth. I'll let you know how it performs... but that won't be in time for you. I'm just writing because I too was hesitating between the E-lux and the KitchenAid due to being leery of complaints I'd seen online about E-lux. I went and looked at both of them in person THREE TIMES, on top of obsessively researching them on the web, and here's what made the difference for me: (1) The KA just seemed a little flimsier and less well designed inside--I didn't want to fight with those annoying produce drawers every day for the next X number of years. (2) I found some complaints online about KA fridges that were as bad--though not as numerous--as the complaints about the Electroluxes. In other words, fridges that died right when the warranty expired; ice makers that suck; fridges that have had 3 service calls in as many months; fridges that can't hold their temperature below 40 degrees; and--this complaint was unique to KA--fridges whose doors get so hot in certain places that you can't touch them for more than a second and you worry they might cause a fire. There just is no such thing as a brand that is consistently reliable. Every brand has some problems. (3) The store where I bought the Electrolux also sold KitchenAid, Viking, Whirlpool, GE, SubZero and JennAir, and we looked at and asked about all of them, so theoretically the salesman shouldn't have cared which brand I chose (though it's true that I don't know whether some of those brands give him a higher commission percentage... although either way a more expensive fridge, such as a Viking, should net him more). He had good and bad things to say about every brand, and he knew about the various issues I brought up (Viking reliability problems, E-lux temperature and ice maker problems, etc.), but he said the E-lux problems had finally been resolved about 3 months ago, and he also said that E-lux had been a lot easier for him to deal with when he called them complaining that his customers were having problems. "I might be on hold with KitchenAid for four hours, and then they're like 'Whaddaya want?!' whereas Electrolux is like 'What can we do for you?' and I got things resolved with them a lot faster and a lot easier. They would send out new boards, new ice makers, whatever, with no problem." He was resolving things for his customers because this store is a little family-run appliance store that's been around for decades. Not a Lowe's/Best Buy type place. So basically his message about the E-lux was, "I'm pretty sure the problems you're worried about have been resolved, but if you have problems with this fridge, it'll be easier to resolve than it would be with a KitchenAid." It is an unfortunate truth that there's no perfect refrigerator. There's not even a super-expensive fridge that I think is perfect but don't want to spend that much on. Subzero is famously less reliable than a lot of much less expensive fridges. If they were tanks, if they lasted 15-20 years without a hitch, I would've considered one much more seriously; I probably would've ended up with one, on the rationale that it's better to spend $6000 on a fridge that lasts 15 years than to go through the hassle of buying three or four $2500 fridges over that same period. And there are complaints about everything. I mean, here are some about the Bosch model one step down from the one you're looking at: http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/B22CS30SNS.html#BVRRWidgetID It's the same as all the other complaints about all the other fridges: the ice maker sucks, the control board went on the fritz, yada yada. I don't know why that is the unfortunate truth about fridges, but it is...

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Hi All, foodonastump asked: "Which has me wondering just how much is to be saved by skirting around delivery restrictions and waiting for weeks to have something shipped clear across the country by an F-rated shipper. My reply: $500-800 was the difference. Not small change for us. I did give the local B&M's a chance, but they couldnt come close. Plessers had already purchased a bunch of these fridges, so I assume that enabled them to offer the lower price, as they had negotiated a bulk purchase. foodonastump asked: "Also wonder what happens if it's delivered with a ding in he door?" My reply: I wondered this too. That's why I called my credit card company and had my questions answered by a supervisor. I also read here and on the Plessers email to NOT sign the delivery receipt if there was damage of any kind to the appliance or our house without noting this damage on the bill of lading (delivery receipt). If you dont want to accept the merchandise due to damage, you note the damage and write refused (get a copy!). The shipper then takes the merchandise away and you are not held financially responsible. If you have any trouble with a damaged delivery, contact your credit card company and speak with a supervisor (preferrably before the delivery people leave). sjhockeyfan, I hear you on the lack of communication. We wouldn't do this again if we had a tight, must-deliver-by-date. Or if we didnt have a working fridge. weissman, canceling the order would have been the worst thing for us to do, as Plessers has a financial penalty for canceling once the merchandise ships. I imagine most B&M retailers do. Everyone, thanks for the replies! I've been slow to respond as my carpal tunnel is acting up from having to move a whole bunch of stuff around to make room for the new fridge that was delivered yesterday, yeah! However, there is good & bad news from this experience. I'll start with the good news: the KA KFCS22EVWH was delivered on day 16 (12/18/13) at 11:30 am by 2 very nice guys from A&M Home delivery. They showed up within the 11-3 scheduled window and called 10 minutes ahead to let us know they were on their way. They were polite, detail oriented and knew what they were doing. They listened well. The fridge was in pristine condition, powered on, and other than a slight bulge at the back top, which looked like it was caused by how it was assembled at the factory, was in great shape. I couldn't ask for better delivery people! The not so great part was getting a phone call the night before at 8:30pm from A&M letting me know they would be at the house the next day from 11-3. When I said this was too soon for us to get the old fridge, and other stuff moved, the only other option given was an after Christmas date. So I took yesterday's date only because I had a flexible schedule that I could re-arrange. The gal who called (Daniella) was very polite and apologized for the last minute phone call. She explained that their system (including the phones) had gone down and they were doing the best that they could under the circumstances. So, my grade for A&M Home Delivery is an "A" for the delivery guys and Daniella's communication to me on the phone, but an "F" for their technology and communication procedures. Total grade: C My Recommendation: Only order from retailers that use A&M if you have the ability to deal with a last minute delivery date, dont need your item within a guaranteed time frame, and you're saving an amount of money that makes it worth it for you. They may eventually get a robust, reliable, tracking system that will enable them to give a consistantly appropriate heads-up, but from other reviews, and my experience, my opinion is that they cant or wont currently provide this level of service. However, they were polite, well-spoken people, and that means a lot to me. My grade thus far for Plessers is an "A". They responded to my request for help with A&M. Their system provided me with a status email letting me know the fridge was in the hands of A&M, and they had THE best price, (assuming the rebates are honored). BTW, I gave 2 local retailers a shot and they couldn't touch the price offered by Plessers. We will definitely order other, non-rush appliances from them, if they have a better price than our local dealers. Now, onto the bad news. I'd like to read the riot act to the people at Kitchenaid who are responsible for either the incorrect spec sheet, or the incorrectly built fridge. The fridge frame, sans doors/drawer is currently sitting in the entryway of the kitchen, (with just enough room for us to squeeze by) because it's too tall to slide under the cabinet that overhangs the space. I measured VERY carefully. Our cabinet is only 18 deep, so it will only cover the frame midway (hinges sit in front). The spec sheet says the frame (without the hinges) is 70 7/8" tall. This would have worked with our cabinet. Spec sheet calls for 1/2", but since the cabinet isn't covering the entire top and there's plenty of room around the rest of the fridge for heat dissipation, I figured this would be adequate. Buuuuuuuuuuut, our fridge measures 71 1/8" tall. I've adjusted the leveling feet. It wont sit any lower. So until we pay a cabinet guy ($$) to take down the cabinet and cut it down, we cant get the fridge into it's space. So warning to all who consider a new fridge, the mfg. spec sheet dimensions may not be adhered to by the factory! You may end up with a bigger fridge than what the spec sheet states. Thankfully we decided we would leave our old fridge in the kitchen, for a month or two, so we could make sure the KA doesn't have any issues. I will post photos and further review of new fridge once we get it up and running. Thanks for all the positive wishes everyone. I love Gardenweb! ~Savvy

I have the Kitchenaid KSCS25FT. The panels on either side of the fridge are 27" deep, and the space between the panels is 36". I don't see any of the refrigerator box or the gasket, just approximately 2.5" of door. It seems like a perfect fit from the front, though I'm sure there's an inch or two of wasted space at the back for the water and electical lines. (That's a great idea about relocating the outlet and the water valve...wish I'd heard of that sooner.) Hope this helps.