Vapor & water proofing a steam shower - does this sound right?
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Comments (3)For a steam shower, you want waterproof and vaporproof. that might sound strange, but just be advised that one is not necessarily inclusive of the other. Two I recommend are Hydroment's Ultraset, and Schluter's Kerdi. While I love Bostik's products, Kerdi would be my first choice for a continuous, 6-sided steam shower membrane. Perhaps you can convince your old school German uncle to embrace Herr Schluter's new school German Kerdi! Mongo...See MoreWhere does vapor barrier go?
Comments (13)You don't seem convinced even everyone who bothered to post are on the same page. Let me provide some more details as I have a bona fide case for what is happening in most CBU built showers: My house is built with SIPs (foam and OSB sammich, if you will). The shower was built against one inside wall (basic 2x studs), one outside wall (OSB-foam-OSB), one combi (SIP/studs) wall where the inside/outside walls meet, and glass. The cementboard was installed directly on the studs and OSB with no vapor barrier. When the shower was taken apart, there was no damage to the studs, but there was mold growing on the OSB that was attached directly to the cementboard. When the water penetrated the cementboards, there is space in the stud-built wall cavity for water to diffuse. But the OSB trapped the water and allowed mold to grow. That's why I say you MIGHT be able to get away without a barrier, as most homes are stick built and are just letting the water pass through and diffuse throughout the house. But as homes get tighter and sealed better, it's a crap shoot with a time bomb. My home was custom built with a low volume, "luxury home" builder who was highly recommended by the architect. Even he was unaware of how a shower needs to be properly built. They were even surprised at how wet the deck mud was when they tore the shower apart (DUH! no pre-slope for the shower pan and plugged up weep holes for the drain!) They also had the notion that tile, grout, sealer and cementboards are water/vapor proof. And they never heard of the Tile Council of North America. I was probably as surprised about this as they were about the condition of my shower. I shudder to think at what high speed/high volume track builders are throwing up, especially in the last market....See MoreSo it's cork or linoleum--does that sound right and WWYD?
Comments (29)NYC - Interesting, I have a 30 year old concrete slab on grade foundation in Michigan, lots of freeze and thaw here. I am currently pulling up one layer of linoleum and one layer of parquet and all the associated glue off the slab. Yucky job. I am putting down all floating floors, to get off the cold slab (cork under marmoleum would have some of that effect) and to prevent any problems from any shifting or cracking of the slab. In addition, I like the non-permanent nature. I can change my mind and change it in 5 or 6 years if it is not glued to my slab!! In researching all the different floating floors, I discovered they all require a 6 mil plastic vapor barrier between the slab and the flooring to prevent moisture from the slab from reaching the flooring. Marmoleum Click has a pressed wood core with the marmoleum glued to one side and cork to the other side so my plan was to just go over the vapor barrier with Marmoleum Click. I think the main advantage of glue down is the extra protection it provides you from water damage. I think glue down tile or sheet Marmoleum is quite bullet proof against water damage. The Click is less so because it has the pressed wood core like all floating type floors. I am just going to have to be careful not to let water sit and put something under the dog's water dishes....See MoreSteam shower questions
Comments (13)Here is a set of detailed instructions for building a steam room: http://www.cedarbrooksauna.com/how-to-build-a-steamroom.html Would you guys say this covers all the bases if you follow it? I've never heard of prefab steam units but I'm intrigued. What are people's thoughts on these? Specifically ones that combine steam + shower in one unit. Such as these: http://www.almostheaven.net/aho/tylopers.htm Is this a good way to get a steam shower without the expense and complication of building one? Would it be silly to put one of these in a bathroom in place of an actual built in shower? I'm thinking yes... If so what about steam room-only models like the one chisue has? Is that a good alternative to building steam into the shower if there is room for it? Are these things as good as having a Mr Steam or Thermasol?...See Moreae2ga
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