For anyone who is new to ordering Hoya cuttings through the mail. There are a few things that can go wrong but they are not the fault of the sellers. When cuttings are packaged up and mailed out in a box or padded envelope they can experience dramatic fluctuations in temperature and humidity while in the mail. High humidity and high temperatures is all that fungi needs to begin attacking a cutting. Perhaps a dip in a fungicide solution would prevent this but not all sellers are going to go to these legnths. Also fungi are almost all opportunistic organisms although there are some species that are predatory on nematodes or that lure and infect insects. Because fungal spores are basically everywhere it is far better to fight fungal disease by adopting good cultural practices vs using fungicides unless disease has been diagnosed. A fan running in your grow space will do wonders to keep fungi at bay. For minor fungal infections cinnamon made into a paste with water works well. For serious problems there are chemicals such as Captan available but these are toxic and you should not use them unless you have to. Mike

I hope you used the Norton Removal tool to remove it and thus making sure all NORTON files are gone I can't tell you how many times folks remove NORTON only to have stragglers left behind... It's a fact Norton does not run well on some machines, their is also user confusion using NORTON correctly.. It's also true NORTON is the best for virus file type infections. Pros & cons. On one of the sites I belong to we have a NORTON rep assisting users that would be SWI FORUMS. I have also heard that the NORTON 2008 has gotten better as far as taking up space and using resources.

yes the AVG8 beta sp1 update was just recently released to help fix some of the problems with AVG8. They are suggesting the update. Also following these directions from their faq is helping. How to disable the AVG add-on in my Internet Browser? AVG 8.0 Free Edition contains a plugin for scanning of search results in Google, Yahoo and MSN search engines. This plugin (AVG SafeSearch) is designed for MS Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox Internet browsers. If you would like to disable it kindly proceed as follows: 1. Internet Explorer: * Run Internet Explorer. * Choose the Internet Options from the Tools menu. * Switch on the Programs tab. * Click on the Manage add-ons button. * Select the AVG Safe Search add-on. * Tick in the Disable option at the bottom of this window. * Confirm changes by clicking on the OK button. * Close Internet Explorer and run it again. 2. Mozilla Firefox: * Run Mozilla Firefox. * Choose the Add-ons option from the Tools menu. * Select the AVG Safe Search add-on and click on the Disable button. * Close Mozilla Firefox and run it again. Note: AVG add-ons cannot be used with Mozilla Firefox 3 (beta) at the moment. Was this FAQ helpful to you? : 1338: How to install AVG without LinkScanner If you wish to install AVG 8.0 Free Edition without the LinkScanner component, or uninstall this component from your program, please proceed as follows: * Download the AVG 8.0 Free Edition installation package from our website. * Run the installation with the parameters /REMOVE_FEATURE fea_AVG_SafeSurf /REMOVE_FEATURE fea_AVG_SafeSearch. One way to achieve this is to: o save the AVG Free installation file directly to disk C:\ o open menu Start -> Run o type c:\avg_free_stf_*.exe /REMOVE_FEATURE fea_AVG_SafeSurf /REMOVE_FEATURE fea_AVG_SafeSearch * The installation will be started, and AVG will be installed without the LinkScanner component. http://free.grisoft.com/ww.faq.num-1241#faq_1241 Here is a link that might be useful: AVG8 update info

I see on ONE of their sites version 7.5.1.43 is 11.8 MB (avgas-setup-7.5.1.43.exe) dtd June 14, 2007 I see version 7.5.488 is 27.2 MB (avg75free_488a1138.exe) dtd Sept 21,2007 The email function must be the difference among other things. My version .43 shows about 6 MB if you can believe any of that MB.