After cooking on and adjusting my CC for the past four months or so I think I have come to the conclusion, as others have, that you will never get a CC with its current burner configuration to get low enough for most of us regardless of how you adjust the "Simmer" screw or igniters. I am not going to get hung up on the "Book" definition of "Simmer". Why would I make such a bold statement? The CC burner has 92 ports or holes � 36 in the outer ring (39%), 36 in the middle ring (39%) and 20 (22%) in the inner ring. Let�s ASSUME for the sake of the discussion that all of the ports are the same and the output is equally divided between the 92 ports at all settings. Now look at the picture below: As posted at the start of this thread this is how one of my burners is adjusted � no flame in the outer ring and no "Clicking". If you follow my calculations above this means this burner is operating at 61% of the burners total capacity and much lower than most of the burners shown on this thread. This week end I cooked two pot roasts at the same time on the CC. One was in a 6 � qt Lodge enameled, cast iron pot and the other in a 13" aluminum oval roaster. Both had a 3 to 4 pound roast, broth, veggies, etc. On "Simmer" this burner produced a temperature of 205F with more bubbles that I would call a low simmer and the other burner was 207F with bubbles. I believe the 92 or 56 ports (the inner and middle rings) will never be able to be adjusted to produce a low enough Btu output to satisfy the average cook. This is why myself and several others believe that CC will ultimately have to redesign the burner to something like a single 20 port ring (like the inner ring on the current burner) with the appropriate office and air shutter to achieve a true "Low Simmer". I would to see Mr. Kalsi and Capital produce a burner that had a range of something like 100 Btu to 23,000 Btu, but I don�t think it can be done and I know the current burner is no that adjustable. Side Note: Has any manufacturer ever published the Btu output of its burners at its lowest setting? If they have I surly have not been able to find it. All they publish is the MAXIMUM output and I have no idea what the lowest setting is when expressed as a percentage of the maximum.

After many years of observing GEM's extreamly poor service for Sam's Club member, the bank has hit a new low by redefining the meaning of a simple word in the English language. If I lost my credit card and it was replaced with a new one (new acciount number)I could understand the reason for reporting that fact to credit bureaus. When the primary account holder of my Sam's card passed away, Sams changed my standing from secondary (user) to primary, with a new account number and membership ID card. After reporting that I lost my credit card to the credit bureaus, GEMB refuses to correct the delibert insertion of false information to my credit file. The GEMB supervisor stated that I "LOST" my old credit card NUMBER when Sam's Club changed it to a new one. I never lost my existing card, nor was it ever stolen. GEMB's is violating the Fair Credit Reportring Act, and as usualy blames it on Sam's Club. It seems that Sam's club would have had to alow me to keep my old account number when changing my status from secondary to primary in order to keep GEMB from flagging my reports with untrue information. No wonder GEMB is at the center of so much fraud. The company simply has no ethics of its own. It does not help resolve fraud issues that people do have, while the bank insists on creating eronious credit information where there is no lost or stolen credit card involved. Someone asked what GEMB stood for. The name aboviously is derived from the parent company's corporate policy. GE (General Electric) Means ..... Whenever contemplating the purchase of any product made by GE, I think of the routine customer abuse it provides through GEMB and then buy any product but GE. It is a shame that Sam's club refuses to sever its relationship with such an arrogant, irresponsible, incompetent financial institution. It probly has something to do with the amount of money that Sam's makes selling GE products.

No luck... * Tried installing DELL's update driver, for my computer, from their site. * Had their support-system scan my computer, but nothing found. * I'm out of warranty...I wonder if this is part of it? * Can't find anything with answers on their Dell communities forums. * Tried FOUR times to install their Touchpad update, but it "Fails" every time. * They have a "Log" I can read of the failure, but it's Greek to me! * I can't open "Device-Manager" either, & I'm logged-on as full-permission Administrator!!!! Arrrggh! * Copy of the log: Probably shows my multiple Install attempts!!! Thanks for ANY help!!!!!! [02/22/15 17:28:29] Update Package Execution Started [02/22/15 17:28:29] Original command line: "C:\Users\Jerstad\Downloads\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.EXE" [02/22/15 17:28:30] DUP Framework EXE Version: 3.0.93.1 [02/22/15 17:28:30] DUP Release: FGG85X02-00 [02/22/15 17:28:30] Intializing framework... [02/22/15 17:28:32] logo.png [02/22/15 17:28:37] User Command: attended [02/22/15 17:28:37] DUP Capabilities Value: 41943039 (0x27FFFFF) [02/22/15 17:28:37] DUP Vendor Software Version: 8.1200.101.214 [02/22/15 17:28:37] Local System/Model Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 17:28:37] Local System OS Version: 6.1.1.0 [02/22/15 17:28:37] OS Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 17:28:37] Local System OS Language: EN [02/22/15 17:28:37] Language Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 17:28:38] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 17:28:38] Temporary payload log file name: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUP44.tmp [02/22/15 17:28:38] Translated Command Line : setup.exe /v"LOGFILE=C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUP44.tmp" [02/22/15 17:28:38] Path : C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02 [02/22/15 17:28:38] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 17:28:52] Append Vendor Software Log: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUP44.tmp [02/22/15 17:28:52] --- Start of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 17:28:52] --- End of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 17:28:52] Vendor Software Return Code: 3221225477 [02/22/15 17:28:52] logo.png [02/22/15 17:28:52] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 17:28:52] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 17:28:52] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 17:28:52] Exit Code set to: 1 (0x1) [02/22/15 17:28:52] Result: FAILURE [02/22/15 17:28:57] Open file: C:\ProgramData\Dell\UpdatePackage\Log\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.txt [02/22/15 17:29:12] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 17:29:12] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 17:29:12] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 17:29:12] Execution terminated at date-time 02/22/15 17:29:12 [02/22/15 17:29:12] ###### ਍਍[02/22/15 17:29:22] Update Package Execution Started [02/22/15 17:29:22] Original command line: "C:\Users\Jerstad\Downloads\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.EXE" [02/22/15 17:29:22] DUP Framework EXE Version: 3.0.93.1 [02/22/15 17:29:22] DUP Release: FGG85X02-00 [02/22/15 17:29:22] Intializing framework... [02/22/15 17:29:22] logo.png [02/22/15 17:29:24] User Command: attended [02/22/15 17:29:24] DUP Capabilities Value: 41943039 (0x27FFFFF) [02/22/15 17:29:24] DUP Vendor Software Version: 8.1200.101.214 [02/22/15 17:29:24] Local System/Model Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 17:29:24] Local System OS Version: 6.1.1.0 [02/22/15 17:29:24] OS Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 17:29:24] Local System OS Language: EN [02/22/15 17:29:24] Language Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 17:29:26] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 17:29:26] Temporary payload log file name: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPB8AA.tmp [02/22/15 17:29:26] Translated Command Line : setup.exe /v"LOGFILE=C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPB8AA.tmp" [02/22/15 17:29:26] Path : C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02 [02/22/15 17:29:26] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 17:29:44] Append Vendor Software Log: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPB8AA.tmp [02/22/15 17:29:44] --- Start of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 17:29:44] --- End of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 17:29:44] Vendor Software Return Code: 3221225477 [02/22/15 17:29:44] logo.png [02/22/15 17:29:44] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 17:29:44] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 17:29:44] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 17:29:44] Exit Code set to: 1 (0x1) [02/22/15 17:29:44] Result: FAILURE [02/22/15 17:29:47] Open file: C:\ProgramData\Dell\UpdatePackage\Log\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.txt [02/22/15 17:30:18] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 17:30:18] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 17:30:18] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 17:30:18] Execution terminated at date-time 02/22/15 17:30:18 [02/22/15 17:30:18] ###### ਍਍[02/22/15 17:31:01] Update Package Execution Started [02/22/15 17:31:01] Original command line: "C:\Users\Jerstad\Downloads\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.EXE" [02/22/15 17:31:01] DUP Framework EXE Version: 3.0.93.1 [02/22/15 17:31:01] DUP Release: FGG85X02-00 [02/22/15 17:31:01] Intializing framework... [02/22/15 17:31:01] logo.png [02/22/15 17:31:05] logo.png [02/22/15 17:31:45] logo.png [02/22/15 17:31:50] User Command: attended [02/22/15 17:31:50] DUP Capabilities Value: 41943039 (0x27FFFFF) [02/22/15 17:31:50] DUP Vendor Software Version: 8.1200.101.214 [02/22/15 17:31:50] Local System/Model Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 17:31:50] Local System OS Version: 6.1.1.0 [02/22/15 17:31:50] OS Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 17:31:50] Local System OS Language: EN [02/22/15 17:31:50] Language Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 17:31:51] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 17:31:51] Temporary payload log file name: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPF27F.tmp [02/22/15 17:31:51] Translated Command Line : setup.exe /v"LOGFILE=C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPF27F.tmp" [02/22/15 17:31:51] Path : C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02 [02/22/15 17:31:51] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 17:32:10] Append Vendor Software Log: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPF27F.tmp [02/22/15 17:32:10] --- Start of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 17:32:10] --- End of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 17:32:10] Vendor Software Return Code: 3221225477 [02/22/15 17:32:10] logo.png [02/22/15 17:32:11] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 17:32:11] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 17:32:11] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 17:32:11] Exit Code set to: 1 (0x1) [02/22/15 17:32:11] Result: FAILURE [02/22/15 17:32:28] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 17:32:28] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 17:32:28] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 17:32:28] Execution terminated at date-time 02/22/15 17:32:28 [02/22/15 17:32:28] ###### ਍਍[02/22/15 18:39:44] Update Package Execution Started [02/22/15 18:39:44] Original command line: "C:\Users\Jerstad\Desktop\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.EXE" [02/22/15 18:39:44] DUP Framework EXE Version: 3.0.93.1 [02/22/15 18:39:44] DUP Release: FGG85X02-00 [02/22/15 18:39:44] Intializing framework... [02/22/15 18:39:49] logo.png [02/22/15 18:39:53] User Command: attended [02/22/15 18:39:53] DUP Capabilities Value: 41943039 (0x27FFFFF) [02/22/15 18:39:53] DUP Vendor Software Version: 8.1200.101.214 [02/22/15 18:39:53] Local System/Model Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 18:39:53] Local System OS Version: 6.1.1.0 [02/22/15 18:39:53] OS Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 18:39:53] Local System OS Language: EN [02/22/15 18:39:53] Language Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 18:39:55] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 18:39:55] Temporary payload log file name: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUP6F07.tmp [02/22/15 18:39:55] Translated Command Line : setup.exe /v"LOGFILE=C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUP6F07.tmp" [02/22/15 18:39:55] Path : C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02 [02/22/15 18:39:55] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 18:40:20] Append Vendor Software Log: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUP6F07.tmp [02/22/15 18:40:20] --- Start of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 18:40:20] --- End of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 18:40:20] Vendor Software Return Code: 3221225477 [02/22/15 18:40:20] logo.png [02/22/15 18:40:20] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 18:40:20] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 18:40:20] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 18:40:20] Exit Code set to: 1 (0x1) [02/22/15 18:40:20] Result: FAILURE [02/22/15 18:40:26] Open file: C:\ProgramData\Dell\UpdatePackage\Log\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.txt [02/22/15 18:41:13] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 18:41:13] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 18:41:13] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 18:41:14] Execution terminated at date-time 02/22/15 18:41:14 [02/22/15 18:41:14] ###### ਍਍[02/22/15 18:48:36] Update Package Execution Started [02/22/15 18:48:36] Original command line: "C:\Users\Jerstad\Desktop\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.EXE" [02/22/15 18:48:36] DUP Framework EXE Version: 3.0.93.1 [02/22/15 18:48:36] DUP Release: FGG85X02-00 [02/22/15 18:48:36] Intializing framework... [02/22/15 18:48:37] logo.png [02/22/15 18:48:44] User Command: attended [02/22/15 18:48:44] DUP Capabilities Value: 41943039 (0x27FFFFF) [02/22/15 18:48:44] DUP Vendor Software Version: 8.1200.101.214 [02/22/15 18:48:44] Local System/Model Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 18:48:44] Local System OS Version: 6.1.1.0 [02/22/15 18:48:44] OS Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 18:48:44] Local System OS Language: EN [02/22/15 18:48:44] Language Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 18:48:46] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 18:48:46] Temporary payload log file name: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPABD8.tmp [02/22/15 18:48:46] Translated Command Line : setup.exe /v"LOGFILE=C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPABD8.tmp" [02/22/15 18:48:46] Path : C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02 [02/22/15 18:48:46] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 18:49:16] Append Vendor Software Log: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPABD8.tmp [02/22/15 18:49:16] --- Start of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 18:49:16] --- End of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 18:49:16] Vendor Software Return Code: 3221225477 [02/22/15 18:49:16] logo.png [02/22/15 18:49:16] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 18:49:16] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 18:49:16] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 18:49:16] Exit Code set to: 1 (0x1) [02/22/15 18:49:16] Result: FAILURE [02/22/15 18:49:19] Open file: C:\ProgramData\Dell\UpdatePackage\Log\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.txt [02/22/15 18:51:07] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 18:51:07] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 18:51:07] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 18:51:07] Execution terminated at date-time 02/22/15 18:51:07 [02/22/15 18:51:07] ###### ਍਍[02/22/15 21:08:13] Update Package Execution Started [02/22/15 21:08:13] Original command line: "C:\Users\Jerstad\Desktop\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.EXE" [02/22/15 21:08:13] DUP Framework EXE Version: 3.0.93.1 [02/22/15 21:08:13] DUP Release: FGG85X02-00 [02/22/15 21:08:13] Intializing framework... [02/22/15 21:08:17] logo.png [02/22/15 21:08:30] User Command: attended [02/22/15 21:08:30] DUP Capabilities Value: 41943039 (0x27FFFFF) [02/22/15 21:08:30] DUP Vendor Software Version: 8.1200.101.214 [02/22/15 21:08:30] Local System/Model Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 21:08:30] Local System OS Version: 6.1.1.0 [02/22/15 21:08:30] OS Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 21:08:30] Local System OS Language: EN [02/22/15 21:08:30] Language Compatible with this Package? Yes [02/22/15 21:08:32] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 21:08:32] Temporary payload log file name: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPF259.tmp [02/22/15 21:08:32] Translated Command Line : setup.exe /v"LOGFILE=C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPF259.tmp" [02/22/15 21:08:32] Path : C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02 [02/22/15 21:08:32] Identified Behavior : attended [02/22/15 21:08:54] Append Vendor Software Log: C:\ProgramData\dell\drivers\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02\DUPF259.tmp [02/22/15 21:08:54] --- Start of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 21:08:54] --- End of Vendor Software Log --- [02/22/15 21:08:54] Vendor Software Return Code: 3221225477 [02/22/15 21:08:55] logo.png [02/22/15 21:08:55] (MUPXMLParser::GetResultName): *** Vendor Return Code is not found in Mup.xml [02/22/15 21:08:55] Name of Exit Code: [02/22/15 21:08:55] (DupAPI::GetReturnCode): *** Unable to find DUP value for: [02/22/15 21:08:55] Exit Code set to: 1 (0x1) [02/22/15 21:08:55] Result: FAILURE [02/22/15 21:08:59] Open file: C:\ProgramData\Dell\UpdatePackage\Log\Input_Driver_FGG85_WN_8.1200.101.214_A02.txt >>>>> It says it's compatible with my Windows 7 too! Faron

First off, that fixture is very pretty! I have some Art Deco lighting in my home too, so the subject is one I love! Did a search for Gill glass slip shades & found fixtures ranging from hundreds to thousands. From what I'm finding, the Gill glass had several "lines", as in collections, I suppose. This one is the Panelle Line This would be the Marquette line Not sure what line this is, but it can make a "bee line" to MY house!! So...that being said, you might just have to do some searching. I'm sure there are lighting experts out there who know of this maker & could give you a better idea upon seeing photos. One question...do these look to be original to your home? That would be awesome if they were. So often these are pulled out & replaced with something "new". Enjoy them! :0) I know I love mine. The only changes made is that they are all on dimmers, which I LOVE!