side-opening wall oven doors -- safety and comfort question
rcvt
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Comments (8)Is that the new Bosch? It shouldn't have the wandering door, but it does need to be installed correctly. Even a little bit out of level could affect it. Bosch is taking after its sister Gaggenau. Westinghouse made good ones in the middle of the last century, and Frigidaire makes (or made recently) an entry level one. All residential. I LOVE side opening, and never really cared for reaching over a drop door. It's even worse now when the doors cover the entire oven, rather than just the cavity. It's a big way to reach. No wonder people need roll out shelves! It's like the cars nowadays that have so little window area that they have to have a rear view camera because you can't see where you're going without it. That's not an issue with the side opening, but placement is. Optimal placement for any oven is about waist high. Drop doors can go all the way lower to floor level since you're looking down. You could do the same thing, under counter, with a side open, but then you'd still need the roll out shelves or you'd have to crouch down to get in. And then the door could be an issue. It's also less obvious to random legs and more of an issue with the heat. Side opening should be at least hip high, and can go up to shoulder high. If you don't have them mounted flush integrated, that is, with the front of the door on the same plane as the cabinet fronts, it can swing all the way open. That's convenient for when you have a big heavy bird in a big heavy pot and need two people to take it out. Side opening is great. I love my Gaggenaus. :)...See MoreAre side swing ovens possible if sandwiched between wall and fridge?
Comments (40)Thank you Colleen (AKA. ANGEL IN DISGUISE)!!! Thank you for all the photos and the incredibly helpful info!! On Mother's Day of all days, when you should be relaxing and basking in the servanthood of your four children, you're sitting there typing away, helping a stranger out. Cpartist, and everyone else too, seriously you all have restored my faith in humanity : ). Sorry to be so dramatic but I truly appreciate you guys. Colleen, is the reason you didn't want the flush install of your ovens so that that your ovens doors would be able open all the way? Is there any other reason NOT to do a flush install? My wall is going to just out way more than yours so unfortunately can't do the right swing, and I'm seeing now that the left swing would not be a good idea either. How would you feel about a traditional pull-down double oven in your current oven location????? The counter behind my ovens will be a little over 4 ft away, so there should be some wiggle room to pull down the door and maneuver to the landing space? Also thank for the feedback on the Karbon! I agree, the aesthetics are pretty unique. Our kitchen will lean toward the modern side so it would fit in perfectly. I will have a tapmaster as well so hoping it will work well for my prep sink. Hope you're enjoying your tapmaster today! What a great Mother's day gift : ). Kim Ladin, I'm going to think seriously about that tall cabinet to make the right swing work. It would mean decreasing the cabinet length in the undercounter fridge run or decreasing the double pantry. I hope you find a good solution to your dilemma as well!...See MoreAdvantium speed oven + Bosch Benchmark swing door wall oven?
Comments (12)The received advice on the Advantium drawer was to make it as convenient as possible, though it probably is less important with the separate microwave. The glass tray for microwaving should not be stored high, and it does better flat than vertical, but since I'm pretty sure it's only for microwaving, you could put it in a less accessible place. Make sure you measure the trays. I think mine are 16" in diameter. They're definitely wider than my cookie sheets. Re flush integration, it's not that it's not functional when done that way. It's that it's really annoying. Because, definitionally, the door is stopped at 90°, or maybe as much as 100° if there's a big enough gap. If you're used to Euro cabinets that have that kind of limitation in the hinge, and are used to it, it might not bother you. I paid up big time to have step hinges so my cabinet doors would open fully. I don't often open my oven door (Gaggenau, side opening) more than about 135°, but when there's a big, heavy roaster or something, where one wants the strength of rigid bent elbows, it's a breeze with the door out of the way. Rolling racks were invented to rectify some of the looks issues that come with drop doors that cover the whole oven, or side doors that don't open the whole way, but there's nothing more convenient than just being able to reach into the oven and lift out your pot. Having one oven flush and the other proud, in a stack, will look weird. Different handles, colors of stainless and control panels, especially when there's at least an inch of trim between, looks fine. Different ovens of different sizes and different functions. But one innie and one outie will push it over the top, in my opinion. You might want to post another thread for info about the Bosch. Does the broiling element get used during speed cook? It may only have 9 pre-sets, but I can't imagine that it'll only do nine combinations. With the Advantium, if it's at all like mine, there are a handful of presets, but you can customize them, and you can also input your own. There's a steep learning curve, so modifying is worthwhile. Find something that sounds similar to what you want to do and change the time, or the amount of convection heat or whatever, and keep experimenting until you get just what you want....See MoreStacking Wall Ovens with a French Door Oven
Comments (21)New as of March 2020 just in time to be quarantined! I was also advised that the Advantium had to be above and the French door oven had to be below. My kitchen is too small to not have stacking ovens and I wanted to avoid stooping to get into an oven below a cooktop. (I'm almost 60, so I do not stoop so well anymore) I am also 5'7" & I agree that it is hard to reach the back corners of the Advantium to clean it - so cleaning back corners has to wait until the oven cools down, but hey that's what step stools are for. I have also discovered that I use the Avantium exclusively as a microwave (daily) and I use the French Door oven for all oven cooking - 3 to 4 times a week. I love how the French Door oven looks. However, because it is situated below the Advantium, stooping is still required to put dishes in and remove them from the French Door Oven. More importantly however is to make sure the doors open all the way & click open so that they stay open and do not burn my arms! Trying to just barely open the doors when adding an ingredient in order to conserve the A/C is just not a good idea. Also the oven racks slide out and back in - which seemed like a good idea in the store - until dealing with a hot oven, racks that want to slide back in and hot doors that want to close on you. Perhaps I am just not used to these modern conveniences yet. If I were to do over, I would raise the entire stack about 4" to 6" as I cook more than I clean. First World Problems....See Morercvt
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