I agree with Deeageaux with a few additional comments. We were faced with a similar situation as you are. We went to order the Electrolux Icon and the store had a 3 year old Viking floor model that was discontinued. After researching on GW and reading the issues with Viking (most dealt with gas ranges, fridges and DW in conjunction with their customer service) we decided to make an offer on the Viking. We offered them 50% of the $6,200 normal price and they accepted. We have been very pleased with our choice and it has worked out for us. While the Wolf is the best oven on your list, keep in mind that it is still a floor model. The doors may have been opened more in a weekend than you will open them in a month. We chose to get an extended warranty (normally we don't) because it was a Viking and it was a floor model. After 18 months (6 beyond the normal warranty) the hinges on the top oven started to fail and the distributor's repair company replaced both upper and lower hinges on the extended warranty at no cost to us (I also know how to change them out now and can do it in the future if necessary). In my opinion you can always increase your offer, but you can never get them lower. I feel that floor models are not a deal unless you get a minimum of 1/3 off, so I normally start at a 50% discount level. Keep in mind that that unit has helped the store sell products for 5 years, and as Deeageaux said, all they can do is say no. Decide what you are willing to pay and remember it needs to be worth the risk that you will carry, not the store. Good luck.

I am having the same problem with an LG/purple enamel interior after Thanksgiving dinner for a group of 10. I served dinner and later tried to remove the burned on spots after the oven cooled and after 4 days and using the Easy Clean function twice daily, most of it is gone but there are still black spots all over the sides and bottom. Customer service told me to try the baking soda and vinegar, then oil, letting each sit 3-5 min. That didn't work. Next, I was told to try heating the oven on a low temp, spray a degreaser and then use a Scotch-Brite non-scratch pad. I did but it wasn't very helpful. I asked customer service how to avoid this again and was told that I should put cookie sheets on the racks under the food next time. I bought this because I was told by the salesperson that the Easy Clean steam function would take care of any cooked on food. It doesn't. This enamel should not be sold with this function.

I've had two Wolf E series for nearly 2 years (single ovens). One oven had an error (TCO detect as open) on the first two attempts at self clean (self clean stopped at about 2 hours into the cycle). Authorized factory service replaced the fan and an electronic part, now I get UIM ambient overtemp error. Just tried to run a self clean cycle on the other oven (2 prior successful attempts at self clean), got TCO detect as open and self clean stopped at less than 2 hours into cycle. Has anyone else had these errors, and what can be done to fix it? I have service coming out in 2 days. Other than these problems, these ovens cook better than any other ovens I've ever had. This problem is double posted in the Appliances Forum.

Re the timer, this is where you can see that Gaggenau sort of cobbled together the double oven as an afterthought. :) Now I also know why someone said the controls were weird. From the manual under "Set time functions for both ovens simultaneously": Short-term timer and stopwatch are not available when both ovens are in use. Cooking time and end of cooking time can be set simultaneously for both ovens. That means, if I understand correctly, that regular go beep timers don't work with both ovens on. What does work are the programs that either count down and turn off the oven, or you set a clock time that you want to take the cooked dish out at, and the oven figures out when to start it. My only guess is that they're protecting you from being confused by which timer is which, so only give you the ones that mind their own selves. Additionally, if only one oven is on, the timer displays on the left, but if both are on the lower oven's timer is on the left and the upper is on the right (there is an icon for each, so you don't have to memorize which is which). I have to say, it's very German Engineer of them. :) Or maybe it's in response to a lawsuit. :) I'm pretty sure the Gaggenau comes with one wire rack, one roasting rack and one baking tray (or at least mine did about five years ago) because that's what fits inside the oven with packing materials, etc. What I can't figure out is that the manual makes it sound like you only get one of each with the double oven, rather than one for each oven. That doesn't make sense. Many people only use one rack, but they'd still need one per oven. I bought two extra baking trays and two extra wire racks for my single oven, and counted them as part of the cost of the oven. I use the baking trays a lot, and often use two wire racks, but almost never use three. I've only cooked on two levels at a time in my Gaggenau. Great results. There is a quirk, however, where if you put short food in exactly the wrong place, the fan will blow over the food, the hot air reflects back and downward from the front right corner, and overbrowns the short food. This happens rarely, and they might have fixed that in the latest models. From what I've heard of the Wolf dual fan, it might do an even better job for multi-level. I've certainly not heard any complaints about it. Gaggenau has made the best electric ovens available for a few decades. From what I've heard about the recent Wolf ovens, especially from people who have used both, is that they're contenders for the title. The problem then is the interior enamel. Wolf has had a terrible problem with it chipping and flaking, which is dangerous. The M series has a potential fix to that problem but hasn't been on the market long enough, or in enough homes, to know if it has actually been fixed. Since that's a very serious problem, Gaggenau remains on the top of the heap. The other big feature for Gaggenau is the side swing door. Some demand it. Others don't like it or don't care. Recently, Gaggenau's sister company, Bosch, started selling side opening doors as well. As far as I know, that leaves Gaggenau at the high end, Bosch in the middle and Fridigaire at the bottom. There are also a couple of boutique makers, who mostly make ranges, like BlueStar, who have either single or double door side opening ovens. There are too few reports of those in use for me to get a good feel of their cooking/baking quality. I wouldn't let the timer thing dissuade me from the Gaggenau. You can get a two channel digital timer for something like $10, or you can get decorative single timers. Or use your cell phone, like most people do anyway, nowadays. The main point is how do you feel about getting the Wolf before the data are in about the enamel? You said you were going to assume it was fixed, but how will you feel if it isn't? If you're fine with that, do you like the Wolf Star Trek style touch screen, or the Gaggenau knobs? Do you like the Wolf drop down door, or the Gaggenau side swing? Do you prefer a steel face or do you like the glass over steel look? The M might have a little more capacity or take a slightly larger pan, from what I've read--will that be useful to you? You could always flip a coin...