"As to whether we're safer with the product you recommend because of personal experience and the fact that you can pronounce its ingredients...well, let's see." I didn't recommend anything. "I choose Jason...for me personally..." I'm also not jumping on the bandwagon. I've been using JASON brand for decades and my mother used it for at least a decade before I was born. Same with Tom's of Maine. I use their toothpaste and deodorant. I like their business practices, I like their ingredients, I like their products. Deodorant was used by Egyptians who swabbed scent under their armpits (like cinnamon oil), but the modern deodorant is only just over 100 years old. It wasn't until the 1940's that it actually became a commonly used product in the form it's in now and the first "modern" ones were pretty nasty stuff (ate through clothes, etc). So, "typical deodorants" is a misnomer unless it includes JASON, which has been around since late 1950's and has never had the unfortunate history of putting so much aluminum chloride in their product that it ate through clothing, commonly caused rashes (and still to this day colors the pits of white shirts yellow). As for linalyl acetate and being able to pronounce it and other allergens in lavender, here's the difference, as far as I'm concerned: When consuming the allotetraploid arachis hypogaea one might be concerned about Aspergillus flavus releasing aflatoxin. It may either be eaten or made into furniture polish, insecticides, and nitroglycerin. Many people may go into fatal anaphylactic shock if they inhale the dust or touch arachis hypogaea but if consumed as a refined oil it is considered allergen free. I can't pronounce half of that stuff, but what I'm talking about are peanuts. It's true, there are big, hard-to-pronounce words that make up the chemical background of plants and there will be people who are allergic to just about anything. Plants do have a complex mixture of chemicals, I agree. So does nearly everything on the Earth. Aquagenic urticaria does exist, but that doesn't mean we should be discouraging people from using dihydrogen oxide, or water, as it's commonly called. Some ingredients in Secret: Cyclopentasiloxane: Canada is trying to ban it from cosmetics. They consider it a health risk. It's a man-made silicone fluid with the formula C5H20O5Si5. It has not been tested for safety in cosmetics by the Cosmetic Ingredient review and in 2005 the Dow Corning Corporation found that one or more animal studies show tumor formation at moderate doses. Although silicone originates from the Earth (doesn't everything!) it is not in it's natural form. FRAGRANCE: Hmmmm.... that sounds refreshing!! A random blend of chemicals and fragrances that they won't even list. Now, I think most people would agree there is a lower risk for allergy if they can see "Fragrance includes: lavender" because if they are allergic to lavender they can choose not to buy that product. If there are no origins of scent listed there is a much higher potential for allergy. Not certified organic means there could be any number of pesticides in their plant ingredients. I know what lavender is. I know that I personally am not allergic to any of the ingredients in JASON brand deodorant and I recognize each certified organic ingredient they use in it's natural state. In fact, I have all of the ingredients in my kitchen or in my garden growing. As with anything you put in or on your body, or in your home, it is prudent to ensure you are not allergic and you are comfortable with the ingredients; where they came from, how they were manufactured, the company ethics and business practices. So, if a person does not know the potential risk for a personal allergy one should not recommend the use of any product to anyone. I have a friend who cannot use Degree brand deodorant because it causes rashes on her body. I can use it just fine.

Thank you for the lesson on soap and water, cynic. I assure you I do bathe regularly with both and still like to use deodorant. The purpose of my post was to give an alternative to the many people who think that anti-perspirants are unhealthy. I get that most people aren't interested but there are some who are. Clogging up one of the body's major detoxification points in order to smell powder fresh all day is certainly a popular choice but there are alternatives out there. This combination is working beautifully for me. I have absolutely no smell at all since I put it on this morning, with no rash or irritation. And while I agree that sometimes people can't smell themselves, I definitely can because that's how I knew that other ones I previously tried over the last few weeks didn't work, lol. Between that, and brutally honest friends, I am assured that what I've found works for me. In the end, it's up to everyone to make their own decisions. I try not to use anything on my body that I couldn't eat if I wanted to because that's what I feel is the healthiest way to live. And yes, I am a worrywort. Have you seen the recent cancer statistics? Something like 1 in 3 will be diagnosed in their lifetime, and it's rising all the time. I'm doing everything I can to avoid it. The body has an amazing ability to detoxify and heal if only we let it and not clog it up with chemicals and preservatives and parabens and toxins and all the other crap in conventional beauty products.

Of course I had been very busy and unable to wash the pants. Well, as soon as I walked in the door today I ran a load that include my pants, several pair of white socks two tiny white washcloths and then sat down with a nice cup of tea. Then I went to take a shower. Yuck the water was brown. I live in NYC with some of the best quality water in the world and I had just drank a cup of tea made with this water and washed my favorite pants in brown water. I feel like these pants are cursed, never mind I drank that water. I live in a multi family building and the building may have turned off the water to fix a plumbing issue which usually results in brown water for less than a minute but the water is not running clear. I can't rewash the pants and I cant take a shower. When the water is clear again I will wash in cold water and hope for the best. Sorry I just needed to rant.

Well I don't often dress up or wear casual dressy, generally its cotton capri or cotton slacks and a cute tunic type top for grocery shopping. At home its always stretchy cotton/poly active wear capris and a hospital scrub top. My at home clothes get worn once as does my nighty/PJ's..my going out grocery shopping clothes usually can be worn a second time. Than there's funeral clothing and church clothes..they get the lint roller and hung up to air awhile and worn again. I suppose I have my in between clothes also LOL.. like tomorrow I have a meeting at the school...I will wear capris..white with huge pink, red, yellow, blue flowers..so I'll wear a yellow silky sleeveless pull over shirt with a very light weight 3/4 length sleeves, white open in the front sweater. Red flats, a gold necklace and a pair of super cute earrings, with a bunch of different colored gems. (I'm laughing as I describe tomorrows outfit complete with accessories) I will probably wash the yellow top as it will be hot tomorrow and I'm sure to sweat. The rest will get aired out and worn again.... Practigal the OP of this thread used to be a active member in the laundry forum. ..boy do I miss her.