pump keeps stopping when trying to fill gas tank
twinklenose
14 years ago
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Comments (12)First off, tell us what was the "wrong" gasoline, and what is the ecommended "right" fuel. We are making wild guesses here not knowing the facts. If you got a load of E15 (15% ethanol) and your vehicle was not certified for this amount of ethanol, by all means get that diluted with the right stuff as soon as you can. Start refilling your tank when it is 3/4 full and keep adding new fuel until at least the euivalnet of 2 tankfuls have been added. After that, return to your regular refill interval. If you have an older car and you got as much as 3/4 tank of E15, its best to get that pumped out and replaced. It does not have to be competely removed; removing until there is 1/8 tank left should be sufficienta and then refill with the right stuff. A garage may be able to bleed off fuel from the fuel log and thereby eliminate the need for dis-assembly of the fuel tank. The hazard of too much alcohol in the fuel is this: Alcohol causes elastomers to swell and soften. Special materials resistant to alcohols are used in fuel systems certified for high alcohol content. Parts subject to alcohol damage are hoses, seals, float assembly, fuel pump, fuel injectors, and maybe fuel pressure sensor. Addition of alcohol to gasoline lowers fuel mileage because the energy content of alcohol is less than gasoline. If your car got 22 miles per gallon on straight gasoline, a mix with 10% alcohol may lower the mileage by 1 to 2 miles per gallon. By the way, most gasoline available in the US has alcohol these days. Straight gasoline is rare. Now, if you mean the wrong octane was out in, this may have little to no effect. If your engine can use 87 octane and a higher grade was put in, there will be no effect. Contine to refill using your regular refill interval. If your engine requires a mid-grade or premium and the lower, 87 octane was put in, you may experience engine knock. If the knock sensor is working, it will retard ignition to stop knocking when detected. This is a temporary change. The ignition timing will be advanced toward standard setting unless knocking is encountered. Knocking will occur again under increased engine load and the process of retarding ignition and then restoring the setting begins anew. In this case, it is best to get the octane increased as soon as possible. As a poster above mentioned, a quick fix is to add an octane booster to the tank. However, do read the label. DO NOT put in a booster that is not safe for the catalytic converter. If the label does not specifically state the product is safe for catalytic converters, leave it on the shelf. So, what to do if you got a load of low octane fuel and you needed premium grade and you will not be adding an octane booster: While using up the initial bad fill, avoid hard accelerations. Don't get into any "drag races". Begin refilling the tank when 1/4 tank has been used (3/4 full). After 4 such refills, the low octane fuel should be diluted enough for you to return to your regular refill interval....See Morewater wars! constant pump vs pressure tank?
Comments (13)Hi Sparky823, your questions are valid, I will try and explain, as best I can. 1. I can drill a well on my own land, but water law would then expose me to lawsuits from neighbors with shallow wells. They could claim I dried up their wells even if their wells have been dry for decades. They may even be waiting for me to do it so they can cash-in on the lawsuit. There is no way to prove either way, of course, but legal precedent in these matters is on their side. Besides, this is a small community and if I alienate someone, I am gonna have to live with them for a very long time and living in a neighborhood where people hate you is the pitts. Soon someone will buy one of their houses and maybe join us non-well-owners side and the balance of power will have shifted. But this is Santa Barbara, and even a piss-poor shack in the woods goes for $2million nowadays so it may be a while. 2.They have wells because their houses were built before mine long ago and my house was probably a guest house or something. There are about 6 houses with shallow wells and 6 without. These wells are shallow, dry or drying, and contaminated but allow the owners of those properties to not have to pay anything for the sketchy water system, even though everyone knows they use the same water from the spring as the rest of us. Those of us who do not have wells pay $25/house/month + $15/person/month for upkeep of the existing water system, such as it is. And who controls the sketchy water system? You guessed it, the shallow well owners! So they are making bank off it to boot. I cant do anything about it, water wars are the history of California and it wont change. So when water is trucked in, they want 1st dibs on it even though us non-well owners are who is paying for it. Its not fair and I may, as I said, go to war over it; but I have only lived here for 7years and some of these bastards have been here for 70+years. I think I can just wait em out, but every year I get angrier. I may drill a deep water well (6-800 feet) if I could hide the operation in my basement or something, but I doubt that its feasible, and I obviously dont know how to drill wells. So they claim they are living off their wells and dont want to lose their "freedom"; and for now I am trying to "get along". But I will not put up with this nonsense much longer and will appeal to the state health board or some government agency to override them if water still runs out....See MoreYou know you are trying to budget when.....(fill in your answer)
Comments (27)Another thought that comes to mind is "Pennies from Heaven". I'd never heard of this till probably a week before my Father's death in 2002, but then when my mother was getting into the limo for the funeral, there was a penny. She also found one getting out of the limo at the cemetery. (Of course, one of the cars broke down right in front of the Home Depot store... Daddy was with us all the way!) I've never found any 'pennies from heaven', but I have found multiples of 10. Dimes, ten dollar bills, Ben Franklins in unexpected places! Maybe the pennies are a sign. I found a penny today, just laying on the ground. But it is not just a penny, this little coin I found. Found pennies come from heaven, thats what my Grandpa told me. He said Angels toss then down, oh how I loved that story. He said when an Angel misses you, they toss a penny down. Sometimes just to cheer you up, make a smile out of your frown. So don't pass by that penny when you're feeling blue. It may be a penny from heaven, that an Angel's tossed to you....See MoreLoud noise/bang in spring water/pump/pressure tank setup
Comments (10)Thanks for that link - very helpful read. So, I'm still trying to wrap my brain around all this before I go to far. Let me explain. First, I'm trying just to understand how this works. I understand it in theory and in that article but, in our setup, it looks like all it is really servicing is the water spigot on the side of the house. The water comes in from the left, down into the tank and also to the right through the honey well then just... on to the water spigot that comes off the house. That's it. Now, I CAN simply unthread the pipe a bit further down, and then into another pipe right by it, to hook the house to the well water in an emergency - as it was shown and explained to me by the seller. So, is it to keep and regulate pressure to the house, its there just in case of that? That might all make sense to me except, why does it make the bang sound when I use water out in the yard from a different spigot. I can't seem to understand how it is even involved there. I see the one pipe go into it. That's it. So anyway, on to what the article says, and others after I've googled a bunch. So, banging on the side of it, it does sorta sound more thud ish than hollow, so I do wonder if it is water logged. I understand if it is water logged the pump will turn on immediately any time you use the water. That is the case here. It does have the air valve at the top, and air does come out - not water. So that is good. I read I need it to be pre charged to the psi (minus 2) of what the pressure needs to be for the pump to turn on. Or two less than the .. in (something). I can't find the exact term again as I type this but it was in-something. SO now what I'm trying to figure out. How do I find out what that number is, I don't see anything on the pump. Am I to put the pressure valve on the drain at the bottom and see what it is? If it's over pressured or under pressured wouldn't that give a bad reading? Is that what the honeywell is for? It says 50psi It looks like on the right. I don't know what the "diff" is on the left. So, should I turn off the pump, drain everything, drain the tank, then pressurize (or depressurize) the air to 48 psi? Everything I see says this is a simple task and I feel like I'm almost there, almost understanding it... just not quite there yet. One thing I do know for sure, it's a good sign water didn't come out of the air inlet. ;)...See Moretwinklenose
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