pump keeps stopping when trying to fill gas tank
twinklenose
15 years ago
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Comments (7)Sheepco, thanks for the picture and explaining your set-up. That really helps. So pretty, too. I think I'm going to try this "diverter" valve. It's cheap enough to find out I don't like it and get one or 2 gate valves instead (2 would be ideal). I'll post my "review" when I get it going. Now I'm just deciding whether I can work in a pretty stream in the next year. If I think I can - bigger pump! If not, might as well spend the extra $40 on plants. Mamasue, I'm not sure what a TT is either but it sounds like your tank is the same size as mine but your skippy is bigger. I'm not TOO worried about green water. That is to say, I'm willing to let it cycle and be green when it needs to but I was thinking a 20 gal skippy with a 100 gal veggie would be enough. Can I ask you for more info on your bigger pond? What your filters are, how big the 2 pumps are, how long you've had it running? Gee are those enough questions? I'm sure I can come up with more for all of you!:)...See More18.5 hp Briggs with tank above....can I disconnect fuel pump
Comments (14)***"replaced needle and seat but its still happening.....even tho I have a fuel shutoff installed"*** OK, I refer to the last sentence in the post above: "even tho I have a fuel shutoff installed". In that statement, are you saying that you actually installed an inline, manually operated.........fuel shutoff valve? Or are you saying that the carburetor HAS a fuel shutoff valve already incorporated into it? If you mean that you installed an "inline fuel shutoff valve", and the crankcase continues to be filling with gasoline.............then you are either NOT shutting off the valve.............or the valve itself is defective..............or (least likely) you installed the valve between the pump and the carb, and a defective pump is leaking gas into the crankcase. Proper placement of an inline shutoff valve is somewhere between the fuel tank and the fuel filter (this placement also allows for easier replacement of fuel filter in the future). Now, if you meant that the carburetor already has a fuel shutoff valve in it.......................you have fallen into the trap of thinking the device is a "total fuel shutoff valve" along with many other people. The fuel solenoid valve (on carburetors so equipped) DOES NOT shut off all fuel. It only shuts off fuel to the MAIN JET, the pilot or idle jet can still pass a very small volume of fuel............and this small volume of fuel flow will still "drown" an engine crankcase in fuel while the machine is not running....if there is a defect in the needle and seat components. The fuel solenoid is actually called an "anti-afterfire" solenoid valve and its sole purpose is to minimize the occurrence loud backfire bang out the exhaust when shutting down the engine....See Morewater wars! constant pump vs pressure tank?
Comments (13)Hi Sparky823, your questions are valid, I will try and explain, as best I can. 1. I can drill a well on my own land, but water law would then expose me to lawsuits from neighbors with shallow wells. They could claim I dried up their wells even if their wells have been dry for decades. They may even be waiting for me to do it so they can cash-in on the lawsuit. There is no way to prove either way, of course, but legal precedent in these matters is on their side. Besides, this is a small community and if I alienate someone, I am gonna have to live with them for a very long time and living in a neighborhood where people hate you is the pitts. Soon someone will buy one of their houses and maybe join us non-well-owners side and the balance of power will have shifted. But this is Santa Barbara, and even a piss-poor shack in the woods goes for $2million nowadays so it may be a while. 2.They have wells because their houses were built before mine long ago and my house was probably a guest house or something. There are about 6 houses with shallow wells and 6 without. These wells are shallow, dry or drying, and contaminated but allow the owners of those properties to not have to pay anything for the sketchy water system, even though everyone knows they use the same water from the spring as the rest of us. Those of us who do not have wells pay $25/house/month + $15/person/month for upkeep of the existing water system, such as it is. And who controls the sketchy water system? You guessed it, the shallow well owners! So they are making bank off it to boot. I cant do anything about it, water wars are the history of California and it wont change. So when water is trucked in, they want 1st dibs on it even though us non-well owners are who is paying for it. Its not fair and I may, as I said, go to war over it; but I have only lived here for 7years and some of these bastards have been here for 70+years. I think I can just wait em out, but every year I get angrier. I may drill a deep water well (6-800 feet) if I could hide the operation in my basement or something, but I doubt that its feasible, and I obviously dont know how to drill wells. So they claim they are living off their wells and dont want to lose their "freedom"; and for now I am trying to "get along". But I will not put up with this nonsense much longer and will appeal to the state health board or some government agency to override them if water still runs out....See MoreFilling up your gas tank - what a shocker !
Comments (28)Although the tank is underground, some of the pipes leading to the pump are not far below surface, though even there the difference in temperature from morning to afternoon will not be large. But the pipe above ground and the pump and the meter in the box above ground are cold. Remember how the warm water coming from your hot water tank is only tepid for a while until it warms up the pipe? While that gas is still chilly from the above-ground equipment cooling it as it passes through, it takes up less space, so you get more per cupful, which is how the meter works. Probably a good idea to use a pump that has been sitting filled with gas for a few minutes, thus letting the cool ambient morning air get a chance to cool the piping down while it has gas sitting in it for a while. I know that a number of people that I've heard express an opinion on the subject say that they don't fill at a gas station that is having a delivery, if they can avoid it, as they feel that sediment and crap, plus any water that has been sittig at the bottom of the tank, gets stirred up and may be carried through the pipes to their car's tank - which they prefer to avoid. It seems to me that gas dropping in a slow stream into one's tank might be less turbulent and splash less, producing less vapour. I note that as I fill my tank, which I'm inclined to do as quickly as possible in cold weather, I note the smell of gasoline while I'm pumping ... which indicates that a substantial amount of vapour is being expelled from the tank beside the filler nozzle. Whether that is simply vapour-laden air that is being displaced by the gas, or super-vapourized air due to additional turbulence as the fresh gas rushes into the auto tank is debatable, I guess. It's smart to keep your tank nearly filled for another reason, especially if you live in northern areas. As the air cools, it drops moisture - on the grass, we call it dew, but in a gas tank we call it a pain in the butt. It gathers at the bottom of the tank and causes it to rust, over time. It gets into the line and filter and sometime blocks it ... but if the weather is freezing, it sure as heck blocks it! For that reason the northern gas delivery people add some antifreeze to the gas during winter months and many motorists add gasline antifreeze to their tank. Keeping a small amount of air in the tank means less condensation of water as ambient air cools, to add to one's list of potential sources of trouble. Being stranded at 40 degrees below is no fun! Especially if there are no warm houses nearbvy ... and one is wearing low shoes to trudge through snow. Best to stay in the (cold) car. People trained to travel on the Prairies in winter carry lots of warm clothing, blankets, etc. in their cars in winter. Do I detect a smidgeon of hot air flying around here, in addition to gasoline vapours? ole joyful...See Moretwinklenose
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