trench drain for shower?
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Comments (11)Which drain do you plan on using? I have just installed a Quick Drain USA channel drain with large black 1'x2' slate and 1'x2' Marble looking porcelain tile. I had to make a couple slight adjustments to this beautiful drain to insure that the money view has the drain right tight to the main and side walls. Quick Drain USA comes with a Nobel Sealant water proofing membrane attached to it out of the box. This drain connects to our standard 2" plumbing lines with a Fernco type fitting. I have personally flow tested this drain (28") to 22.3 Gallons per minute. This flow rate is very high and ideal for multiple head showers. Check your local codes. Some times you may need to build a Water Sculpture and not a Bathroom! ACO has a nice drain for a mud bed install but getting the drain tight to the wall will require slight framing and structural adjustments. Not many. My friend wants this drain with the Red lights for her new en-suite! I'm sure that this drain as well could be modified and set into a standard Kerdi drain assembly (voiding all warranties and may or may not work) - I have not received my ACO drain as yet and will advice more on this shortly. I have been chatting with Mr. Guse, Western Canada Area Sales Manager ACO Systems Ltd. for the past 12 months and he informs me of late that there will be more options for water proofing tie ins for their ACO drain. Some online information shows the waterproofing membrane flat and this is not what they want to my knowledge - I'm told the new PDF file is being worked on by their technical department. Mr. Guse suggested I contact our QuARTz by ACO Technical Services Specialist in Casa Grande, Arizona. His name is Ben Newcombe and can be called at 1-888-490-9552 or at bnewcombe@aco-online.com. I had a training meeting with Doc Warner at Cantu bathrooms here in Vancouver a couple weeks back and the CeraLine drain is top shelf. So many custom trims available and fine tuning the drain assembly has been so thought out. I have two on pending order and can upload a few pictures in a couple weeks. Contact California Faucets to find a display drain near you. This drain has just been launched and not all showrooms nation wide are stocked. I will have 2 here in Vancouver for display if you need more pictures or would like to see them up close. There are tons of examples of channel drains online. Search "Channel Drain pictures" When the drain is tight to the wall - this look can't be topped. If this is not possible consider it under the shower entry door. Consider as well a second floor drain near the entry to the bathroom and closer to the vanity. This drain can be a back up and is par for the course in Australia and many European cities....See MoreCan you spot any challenges with this bathroom design?
Comments (15)Hmm I'd never thought about the taller toe kick before - that's a great idea! Are your LEDs hardwired then? I'm not as sold on the built-in bench as DH. I think he imagines more "steamy" shower sessions than I do (IYKWIM). I've been looking at those fold down/wooden benches and I think he's warming to the idea. I also am not totally confident in built-in benches for water tightness. Will definitely consider this. The code here for toilet space is indeed 30" - we have a little less in our current bathroom (like 28) and I'm not sure how we passed inspection. Anyway, the pony wall kind of defeats the purpose of the curbless shower but if we have to go curbed I'll definitely reconsider this. It'll be cheaper than glass! enduring that vanity is amazing - I love the idea of furniture as fixtures. Very classy and thanks for the advice! We'll have an exhaust fan installed where the heat lamps are currently - those things terrify me!! All the electricity is wired to the exterior wall, you are correct. We're having new ductwork run through the entire house, so I'll have to consult with the HVAC guy next week about where to put the vent - it'll come up from below so I'd probably have him mount it under the glass block window on the floor. I do like the idea of putting it under the vanity though - and it would be even easier if we did the tall recessed toe kick like you guys have mentioned. Do you find that your lotions and stuff stay nice and warm in the winter? Haha added bonus! Again, great ideas! What do you all think about in-floor heating? Would it work under a "wet-room" situation? I'm having my doubts about the life expectancy of those electrical systems and doubly worried about it setting my house on fire. Since we're ripping out an existing bathroom, I'm not sure what the subfloor looks like. Would the thickness of the electric tiles under the floor screw up the slope for the bathroom? We're having hardwoods installed in the bedroom and I don't don't don't want a transition strip in the doorway - in fact I'm not even sure if we can with the pocket door. Either way I'm worried the extra thickness plus the mortar he'll need to use for the tile plus then the tile on top would put us above where we'd need to be to have a flush transition with the wood. Did you guys contend with that?...See MoreShower Drain - Channel/Trench/Line Drain
Comments (0)Has anyone encountered a channel drain (also sometimes referred to as trench or line drain) here in the US? See the web link below for an idea of what I'm referring to. I'm trying to find a source for this type of product for my bathroom remodel (guest and master baths). It seems as though they're more common in Europe and Australia. Would appreciate any leads! Here is a link that might be useful: Channel Drain Example...See MoreWater flowing to floor with curbless shower
Comments (40)It took me years of study online to get my bathroom as functional as it is. Part of that is due to the newness of trench drains when I started reading. The hours and hours I put in reading this forum allowed me to judge which pros had an attitude and knowledge base that I respected and could trust. Then I read everything they wrote! Same with ADA design, read and think and decide for yourself what your needs are and are going to be in the future. No ADA design guideline is going to give you the bathroom you need for your particular issues, because they were written to make a bathroom that is accessible to their "defined handicapped person" who may not have the same needs as you. My best example of this is the 5 foot radius around a toilet that is part of the ADA guidelines. Well, if you have arthritis in both knees and cannot rise without a good strong handrail or counter on each side to push off of, then that 5 foot radius around the toilet is going to have you stranded with no way to get up. The "trombone" style bars that hinge up out of the way are absolutely necessary on either side of an ADA 5 ft radius toilet, but the place that you place them on the wall will differ for a "normal" sized person and the 300# - 800# person with the disorder I have. So you have to have a designer who understands your medical problems almost better than you do to plan well. THAT is why I did it all myself. Another issue I encountered were ADA vanities. They almost all hang on the wall (and cost thousands of dollars) to allow a wheelchair with leg rests to have access. Well, I am currently walking, and my knees will collapse without warning and I grab the nearest damned thing I can get to keep from falling. I am going to take a toll on that wall-hung vanity I spend a small fortune on! My 330# weight, pressing down through my arms until I can flex my knee to get it back into joint is going to eventually break that vanity, if I don't pull it off the wall the first time. I had to design my own vanity with legs that rest on the floor and bracing to the back wall to work for my needs. Wall-hung toilets are another favorite of an ADA bathroom. Nice and easy to clean under. You can find them that "hold" 300-600 lbs, but you have to understand a bit of physics to understand why this is inadequate. They are saying the toilet can hold that much weight when it is sitting still on the toilet. Lets say that you find that you have to shift your weight while sitting, or that your knees tend to collapse just before you get to the sitting position. We are now talking about kinetic weight, which triples the amount of weight the toilet actually "feels." Now, that toilet that holds 600 lbs is only good for up to a 200 lb person. This is not explained anywhere. I knew about this issue because I once majored in physics in college. It took hours of internet searching for me to find something that addressed kinetic weight in relation to these toilets and confirm my suspicion. Their weight rating is for static weight only. This shows how individual an ADA bathroom can be. Your designer had better understand the issues of a lot of disorders in order to design one that suits your needs. THAT is why I did mine myself....See Morefunnycide
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