I purchased the Costco "Classic" back in the early 2000's - I think it was 2000 to be exact. I am STILL using it in June of 2019 (love to read the "I'm afraid of this new product's longevity / reliability" comments posted in 2002). Went through several grill covers - I leave it out all year long - much too heavy to move around and I am in NJ so we don't use it after November open it in late April/Early May. A good Quality Cover is important to keep water out of the side burner compartment (does not drain at all) and main burners - water is bad. But if I took some photos of this grill you would think it was only a few years old. It is by far the best grill I ever owned - replaced the heavy duty high BTU side burner once because of water damage (found an exact replacement - you need to search for the specific model to buy quality parts - not the imported junk sold on Amazon) and the main burners once in 18 years - one of them needs replacement again - I did find the CORRECT heavy gauge stainless main burners on line at a BBQ parts store. As a comparison (you get what u pay for) the thin gauge stainless burners that u get from Big box or Amazon cost around $20 or less for all 3 burners - the correct heavy gauge SS replacement burners cost over $20 each - if u but the cheap ones they will rot out in a season or maybe two - the heavy gauge replacements will last 5 to 10 years. Other than trying to find a quality cover that will last more than 2 years (I am trying a new "King Kong" brand cover - it's more $$$ than the run of the mill types but fit, feel, vinyl thickness seems to be of a much higher quality - last one was a top of the line Sears brand - got about 4 years out of it before it rotted away. The grills are indestructible as is the frame, cover and other parts that fall apart on other grills in 5 years or less, no rust or corrosion anywhere, easy to clean, BTW - I converted mine from propane to Natural gas after the first 3 or so years once NG was available in my neighborhood, I also converted a 40 year old Propane fireplace to Natural Gas.. You don't need a "special kit" from the manufacturer - all that is needed is either replacing the venturi valve orifices on each of the burner controls including the 3 main burners, the rotisserie burner and the side burner, or you can carefully drill out the old orifice to support NG (Propane is under higher pressure and uses a smaller hole than NG) - I did this on the fireplace - you need a special sized (numbered drill bit) drill bit used by machinists - they use numbered bits as opposed to what most people are familiar with like 1/8" may be a #34 in numbered bits - they can be had just google - I think Harbor Freight may carry them as well since they are used by the automotive repair industry as well. Once you look up the correct size hole for Natural gas in your area (sometimes extreme elevation may require a different size than sea level - easy enough to research) I recommend using a drill press (I have a small one that cost under $100) for a perpendicular hole - but the orifice metal is soft brass - this isn't rocket science. If you want to purchase replacement venturis - especially if your not sure if u may move and convert grill back to propane) they are very inexpensive for the kit, size / threads are pretty much standard - any good Fireplace, Professional Plumbing that deals in gas appliances, or BBQ grill stores (on line or retail stores) can provide you will the venturis u need based on the model grill - or worst case - u may have to remove an old venturi and take it to the store or measure it using a caliper or precision ruler & a photo to send to on-line store. There are only a few different sizes & most BBQ grills are one size. The post that said " I heard you need to change burners if u convert from propane to N.G. or u get a yellow flame" is total nonsense - if they were told that by a salesman - they were being ripped off. The burner doesn't care if the fuel is propane or NG - that is ridiculous when u consider how many other gas appliance can run on either fuel and imagine having to change the burners in a 600,000 BTU Pool heater because you changed from propane to NG or visa versa - that would cost about $500... I converted both my fireplace & grill to NG and did not change either devices burners - the FP I drilled out the venturi and the grill my local FP store/repair shop (been there for 40 years - an old timey type shop) had the 5 venturis needed for the grill - again not special for my grill - same size as Weber and other big USA name brands (Ducane, Viking etc...). I think they were something like $2 to 3 dollars each. Taking apart the gas control valve is easy once you get it out of the grill - a bit difficult cause you have to lay on your back to access the valves. REMEMBER you also need to remove the old Propane feed hose assembly from the main valve assembly that has the gas input male flare fitting (should be 3/8" male flare - if you measure the outside diameter of fitting it will measure 1/2" !! that is 3/8", a true 1/2" fitting would measure 3/4" outside diameter - I don't know why gas fittings are listed by INSIDE DIAMETER when all other plumbing is measured by outside diameter - anyway - if it measures 1/2" then it is 3/8" that you would need to order/buy - this can be purchased on Amazon - the hose comes in 6', 12', 25' & 36' either 3/8" or 1/2" fitting - one end - the female 3/8" flare - screws onto grill 3/8" male flare - the other end is a two piece quick connect safety push & click connector - u need to have an outside male NPT (pipe thread) connection from you on/off ball valve - I believe it is 3/8" also (not flare - NPT) - the hose comes with the quick connect adapter that screws onto the 3/8" male NPT - the other end is the "quick connect" female - the hose has the male push on quick connect. The rubber hose is actually 1/2" even though they list this as a 3/8" (I accidently ordered the 1/2" hose & Fitting - 2x as expensive - longest = 24', and huge in comparison to what I needed - as I said before the 1/2" is much less common - harder to find and measures 3/4" fittings, hose etc... - had to send it back to amazon and replace with a 36' x 3/8" worked perfectly & extra length was needed. Having an outside ball valve allows me to shut system off when not in use - in case a critter chews thru my hose - but if you disconnect the quick connect fitting it has an automatic shutoff at the fitting - good if someone pulls off hose at house but doesn't help if vinyl hose is cut or eaten. The hose I have is 15 years old - no leaks. o conversion is relatively simple 2 step process - replace the 5 venturis or remove and drill with correct numbered drill bit sized for NG & replace propane high pressure hose with low pressure 3/8" x length needed - 3/8" flare on grill end & quick connect on hose end - recommend installing outside ball valve to shut of gas when not in use.

The Wolf has an IR grill and has one temp; really hot. The Bluestar is a flame grill with a 15k btu burner. The Capital grill is a hybrid. It uses an 18k btu burner to create the heat and ceramic rods to distribute the heat for more eveness. Have not used the BS. Most describe it as hot enough.Some say it takes a little long to heat up. The Capital reaches temps upwards of 550 degrees. But temps are variable from low to 550. I don't think there is a real debate about which grill is better in the RNB vs Culinarian just how big is the margin. Re Oven size. When I was looking to buy I took my most used pots/bakeware to see if there was a comination I could put in the BS that would not fit in the CC. Could not find one. Another poster in several threads did the math using standard size bakeware and could not find a combination that fits BS but not CC. The 30" oven is a different story. Re Burner Pattern. I think the BS is prettier but the CC slightly more effective. Forget his handle, but the only GW member that has owned both a BS and CC agrees. Re Simmer It does not seem simmering in the 130-140 degree range unassisted by a simmer plate is that important to you. Re Looks. I find the 30" CC ugly. The proportions are wrong and the fill grate on the rangetop looks like an afterthought. 36"-60" I like them both the same. You like the looks of the CC better for your particular kitchen so advantage CC. Re Quality I think BS has shrunk the gap recently but not eliminated it. The quality issues for Capital seem of the fit and finish variety.Like the grates fitting a little lose on the rangetop(not on the range). And they fixed that problem rather quickly. The BS problems are of the functionaly variety. Like the hot door or the sticky door of the past that seems resolved now. But it seems it took years and CC competition to get that fixed. Re Price. That is the only real stickler in my mind. Even at UMRP I still lean CC. When I was looking to buy I was leaning CC but willing to go BS if I found the right deal. I found a real good deal on a 36" self-clean CC so bought that.IF I would have found a better deal on the BS I would have bought that. Disclaimer. Above is just my opinion. Trying to honestly help and answer avidchef's question. It is fine if you have different opinion. I have no desire to enter into flame war.

Hey BalTra! Another vegetarian here and I understand your concern regarding the oven. I don't use mine very much... Papa Murphy's pizza, holidays and occasional casserole dish. Our Bosch oven does have some interesting other features such as a dehydrator setting that I will use one of these days. I have a SHE 45 model Bosch DW and agree regarding the smallness and inflexibility of it if you use lots of ceramic bowls etc. It runs fairly quietly but really needs the rinse agent as I have discovered. The cycles are usually around 100 minutes with the quick wash exception. You learn to run it before you need that one dish.... I have either the same or similar cooktop that Numbers has and agree with her comments. Love how easy it is to clean up and I have the silver strips. We debated about having it set into the counter flush versus perched on top. Unless you have great faith in your countertop co. I would consider the strips and perch position for your cooktop. My advice regarding your frig is to make sure that the path from your front door to the spot is big enough for your frig. We nearly bought a slightly larger standard depth Samsung model that alas wouldn't have made it into our kitchen. Good Luck!

I have not been a member of this forum but for a very short time. The reason I started snooping around here is because I always do research before major purchases. My wife thinks I over research and maybe she has a point. I started out pretty sure I was going to get a Wolf package. That is, the Re frig, ovens, and range. Wolf has/had a $2500 dollar discount if you got all of the items at the same time, and Subzero and Wolf are the bling meisters of kitchen resale, and of course my local appliance dealer told me they were the best. However, I have been dismally disappointed with my current gas range, a Frigidaire Gallery with one 15,000 BTU burner and a simmer burner and two 'other' burners that are pretty much good for nothing. It has been woefully inadequate and disappointing. The reason I specified gas in the first place is because of a wonderful gas range I had in college, an old battleship that had a top that lifted like a car hood and burners that were unbelievable. This thing had to date from the early sixties and cooked like a professional cook top. My gas range now is nothing compared to that old range. So my research started and I discovered the main difference between my original battleship gas range and the one I currently have, open vs closed burners. This is why I originally gravitated to wards bluestar. However, the service horror stories and quality issues scared me right back to Wolf and I also added Monogram and DCS to my consideration. the process eventually lead me to the capital culinarian. It has the right fit and finish and open burners, and in its "precision" incarnation is a well respected, well built range. I struggled with the decision mainly because I know how people are when looking at houses, and Wolf appliances get the bling factor vote. I also will be selling my house in about 10 years so I had to factor this into my decision. However, I just have to have that open burner range I have been pining for since college. So that is it. I have no reason to slam Wolf appliances. In fact, I was on the fence between a Wolf and the Capital for quite a while. I love the look of the Wolf Range. I also love the look of the DCS, the GE monogram, and the Capital. Each one offers something for the shopper. I do believe the Capital is going to end up being the best choice for me and for most people disappointed with closed burner ranges. I you feel your cooking style dovetails with closed burner ranges, probably a wolf or a DCS, or a capital precision will work great in your kitchen. If you want to resale you house in the next few years, at least here in Florida, Wolf is the smart choice. I don't get all the hurt feelings. These are appliances we are wasting time discussing, not our children. If someone thinks your range is all bling and no sear, in the final analysis who cares?