Anyone Have CC w/ LP?

13 years ago

I just want to preface this with the fact that we live in Houston and our LP CC is in our new home in SC. We're still awaiting our C/O and we only get to go there about once a month until we move (date unknown), so I can't just go over to the range to try things out.

Also, I haven't cooked with gas for 20 years, I've never had electronic igniters and the only LP range I've used is the one at my grandparent's summer home over 20 years ago. I know what to expect from a pilot light, but not these "clicky" things.

Anyway, when I was in SC just after Christmas, the CC was installed, but it was really hard to get even one of the burners to light. The igniter would click and a few tiny blue flames would appear, but I couldn't get all of the pinholes in all of the rings to light before I smelled too much gas & turned it off because I was scared. The guy who installed it happened to come by for something else while we were there & he said that the way to get the whole burner to light was to blow on it & then it would work. Is that the way you are supposed to do it? I really wasn't expecting that when I chose to go with gas.

Anyway, I happened to have my laptop with me with the Eurostoves video on it for adjusting the air shutter, so I showed it to him. He was concerned about how much gas we were smelling, so he turned it off & that was the end of experimenting with the air/gas mixture for that trip.

In the meantime, the HVAC sub verified that there was 10" WC pressure being delivered to the range, so that should be OK. DH went to SC in mid-January and verified that the number stamped on the burner orifices is correct for LP. He tried to adjust the air shutter, but he still couldn't get all of the pinholes in a given burner to light without blowing on them. I didn't see what he did so I can't vouch for the fact that he tried all the combinations of adjustment that he should have. He had lots of tasks to do in a short amount of time and he gave it his best shot.

Obviously, the next time we are there, we will try the air shutter adjustment, again, but we're wondering if this behavior of not lighting without blowing on the burner can be attributed solely to the air/gas mixture. Is there anything besides the burner orifices that are unique to LP vs Natural Gas? We have a very early model and it's likely one of the very first with LP.

So, if there are any other folks out there with CC's on LP, we would appreciate some feedback on how yours works and how easy it was to get it adjusted. (Yes, we've been communicating with Trevor & we will likely try to get him on the line when we are there next. We have a little problem of poor cell coverage because of location & we don't have a landline, yet.)

Thanks - Jo Ann

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Goldengoose7
13 years ago
Sounds like you don't have enough pressure in your gas line for the stove. Did you have the range installed by a certified tech from your LP supplier? Who did the LP conversion? Was the line checked with a Manometer and compared to the required pressure spec of the stove?

I own a BlueStar 30" and they make a big deal about having a certified gas company tech hook the unit up so that the gas pressure can be checked with a properly calibrated Manometer and all other aspects. Our LP pressure was 11 wc which was exactly what our BlueStar required. Our stove came from the factory ready for LP gas.

If your LP conversion was not done right, or your pressure is too low, you have a VERY DANGEROUS situation going on and really should not be using that stove until you get a certified tech out there to get things set right.
maire_cate
13 years ago
I'll second Goose's advice about having a tech from your LP company come and check. Our vacation home is LP and we had the LP company come out and check all the appliances after our contractor installed them. We didn't have any problems with the more common appliances like the GE cooktop, oven, furnace and hot water. But even though the contractor was experienced he didn't install the gas fireplace correctly and the LP tech found the problem quickly.
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drjoann
Original Author
13 years ago
Thanks, guys! I'll try to answer as many questions as possible given that I'm so far away from the range under discussion. Also, since we are so far away, I'm not trying to use the thing, but is it dangerous just sitting there?

Thanks for confirming that it is likely the pressure. Even when DH was playing around with the air shutter he never got a big "roaring" flame like we've seen on the Eurostoves video.

The builder had the range installed by the HVAC contractor, not the LP provider. After our first round with the range in December, DH had the HVAC guy measure the line and it was the 10" water column that we expected. (I assume he used a manometer.) Also, the burner orifices are the right size for LP. So if the range gets the right line pressure and the orifices are correct, it's got to be something in between if the pressure isn't right.

We are tending to think that the issue is with the LP "conversion". It was not "converted", per se, but was supposed to come from the factory ready for LP. That is what we ordered back in April and the box was marked as such. However this particular range is one of the first, if not the first, LP to come off of the Capital Culinarian line. We're wondering if either the wrong regulator was installed or they forgot to include a conversion kit.

Is there anyway we would be able to tell if the "conversion" is correct by looking at it? Calling in the LP tech is complicated until we can be there because the builder has a "feud" with our supplier (but we wanted to use the provider since our sub-division has a buying club) and all dealings have to involve us. Also, I ordered the CC directly so I can't really depend on the builder for much except, maybe, to look at it & take pictures.

Thanks for the help - Jo Ann
thusie
13 years ago
Jo Ann,

I would try and get one of the LP folks out there when you folks are there to take a look. They will be the best to advise you on what needs done. Till then you could probably have the range unhooked from the LP so it doesn't accidentally get turned on by someone working there.

I know this has got to be driving you nuts but until one of you can be there with the LP guy probably just best to let it ride for now. Unhooking the range shouldn't be a big deal.
Goldengoose7
13 years ago
You should also call Capital and let them know what is going on. I would expect them to ship you (free of charge) replacement LP orifices on the chance that the installed ones are either Natural Gas type, or defective. They can of course track the serial number of the range and review the manufacturing records for that specific stove.

There is a pressure regulator in gas ranges as well which could also be faulty, so this is why it would be a good idea to open a warranty claim with Capital in case additional gas line related parts need to be replaced.

As I said before, I am a BlueStar owner, but I would expect Capital to handle this the same way that BlueStar would.
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Trevor Lawson (Eurostoves Inc)
13 years ago
Jo Ann
I checked with the factory and so far as they are concerned the range was manufactured for LP gas, having said that mistakes happen, Provided your orifice has a stamped number 55 you have the correct LP size.
thusie
13 years ago
Jo Ann,

I'm sure Capital will fix any issue that has to do with the range, but you do need someone who knows and works with LP to trouble shoot this.

I gather there is a problem with your GC and the LP folks? I think I would just tell him your range isn't working right, it is an LP hook up and you want a Tech to take a look. Your house after all.
donfromma
13 years ago
As I understand it the differences are the orifice and the regulator settings. If the regulator is set for NG then I think it would be dropping the 11" w.c. Down to something like 5" which may cause problems like you are seeing. The below link talked about simply flipping an insert in the regulator. Looks like something easy to check.

Here is a link that might be useful: Converting NG range to LP

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