Has anyone grown Goose Creek before
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Comments (2)I've grown both and have yet to get them very large before they bolted. Probably, as with many bolt prone greens, it would help to plant them in mid summer for a fall crop. That way they mature as weather gets cooler. That's just my hunch. Here is advice from gardentrekker (Sun, Sep 23, 07)on that subject: "The secret to tender and healthy yu choy is to have them grow very fast. The way I do it is of course, as I mentioned, rich soil with lots of humus. Sprinkle seeds sparsely (5 or so inches if you don't want to transplant, or 2 or 3 inches apart if you intend to) on top of the soil. Sprinkle fine cut grass (if you have it), and water very gently twice a day. The seeds will germinate as quickly as four or five days if conditions are good. At this stage, it is okay to let them be in partial sun, in fact it is better (use burlap tenting if the weather is very hot and dry). If your soil prep is correct, the primary leaves will look large and healthy (you will see some that are smaller), and within a few days the secondary leaves will appear. Transplant (if you wish) when they are around three inches tall into a raised bed. The best day to transplant is on an overcast or somewhat rainy day, or else in the evening when there is no more sun. (My transplanted ones tend to be more robust). Water twice a day, morning and late afternoon, and fertilize with a high nitrogen mix ( I make a compost tea with manure). The best days to fertilize is on rainy days (it seems to me) or in the late afternoon. When ready to harvest, cut the center stalk and allow the lower nodes to sprout side stalks. Water immediately after you cut any. If they weather is too hot or too cold, they will start to blossom. Once they start, even if you harvest the center stalk, the sides would start to blossom also. Otherwise, you will have the most tender luscious greens for your table." I don't recall any pest problems. Jim...See Moregunnera - has anyone grown this?
Comments (9)Bagsmom, It's nice to have you here chatting on our forum. We Oklahomans are friendly and love having visitors from other areas. Oklahoma's weather is highly variable because we sit right in the middle of the country and parts of our state vary quite a bit from one another. Southwestern OK, for example, is very dry and alkaline and has pretty low annual rainfall whereas Northeastern OK is usually lush and green, humid, has lots of rainfall and really nice soil that is much more acidic than the soil in southwestern OK. So, even though we're all in the same state, some of us garden in conditions very different from one another's. One thing we all have in common here in OK, though, is really hot weather in July and August and recurring periods of drought, ranging from mild to moderate most years, but sometimes severe to extreme. Some parts of Oklahoma get 45 to 55 (and sometimes even more) inches of rain in a good year whereas in other parts of the state 12" to 20" of rain is more typical. It all depends on which part of Oklahoma you're in. Much of our state is exactly what you'd expect to see in the Great Plains.....vast acres of grassland filled with prairie plants and animals. In some parts, there's lots of gorgeous forest areas and beautiful lakes. Some parts are desertlike. Gunnera probably would survive in some of the more rainy and humid parts of OK if you could put it in a perfect microclimate to help it survive the heat, but even then a severe cold snap in winter might get it. It is my understanding from talking with people that have grown gunnera that the heat/wind here make it look pretty ragged once the daytime temps are over 90 degrees. And, our daytime temps in most of the state are over 90 degrees pretty much all of June, July and August and--in very hot years--all the way into late October. So, for most of us, it might survive, but not necessarily thrive. If you have a LOT of shade, moisture-retentive soil and lots of humidity (or a misting system), the gunnera might love your part of Georgia I know some people in the Carolinas grow it, but I don't know how similar their weather/climate is to yours. I think gunnera would just roast in our climate, especially in the western and southern parts of the state, in July and August. June would be iffy--it would depend on whether it was a rainy June or a dry June. I don't blame you for wanting to grow gunnera. It is a gorgeous plant. Everytime I look at a photo of gunnera, I want to grow it. However, since I'm in one of the drier parts of OK, I know I can't have it here. If you do decide to try it, I hope you'll let us know how it does for you. Dawn...See MoreAM tomato harvest -- Monomakh's Hat and Goose Creek tomatoes
Comments (16)That's Michael Johnson in the UK and his seed source was what? As I said, GC seeds are out there in both red and pink versions but the first ones that I and several others knew were pink, as described by Jimmy Williams himself. And that was way before Laurel got the seeds for GC and started seeling plants and I don't know through whose hands the seeds went before she started selling plants. Jimmy Williams tried to patent GC and the patent application is online and makes for interesting reading. But no patent was given, for several reasons I'm sure. Well, I might as well tell you the rest of the story here. I was contacted by a fact checker from a magazine that was doing an article on Jimmy Williams and wanted my opinion of the claims he made for the variety. And that's when I first started looking into it really seriously b'c at the time that Jimmy said the seeds came from the Caribbean there were no smooth looking tomatoes anywhere and that didn't happen until maybe 70 years later when the first smooth, not bumpy lumpy ones of previous years existed. I checked with my friend Andy Smith who wrote the best book on the History of the Tomato that I know of and he agreed with me. I have no idea if that article ran or not. Carolyn...See MoreCan I save seeds of tomatoes (goose creek) that have been in frig
Comments (33)Jsvand5, I don't know of any commercial source for Goose Creek seeds, but two people listed Goose Creek in the 2008 Seed Savers Exchange Yearbook. If you aren't a member of SSE yet, this would be a very good time to join because the 2009 Yearbook is just now going to the printer and will be out in a month or two. The Yearbook is a very good place to look for varieties that you can't find anywhere else, as many members list those for which they have enough seeds to offer. Laurel, there was never any patent granted for Goose Creek, nor will there be. Jimmy Williams applied for a patent on November 11, 2004 but it was never granted. Goose Creek was not "invented" by Jimmy Williams, and as noted above, the stages of ripeness described for Goose Creek are not unique to Goose Creek. Jimmy Williams can apply for a patent if he wishes but he won't get one. The United States Patent and Trademark Office has a public web page at http://patft.uspto.gov/ where anyone can look up patent applications as well as the patents that have been granted, and you will see that there is an application but it has NOT been granted. Anyone who wants to can go to the web page and verify this for themselves. Here is a link that might be useful: 2008 SSE Yearbook...See Morecbadcali
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