bogaat that picture with the tall plants and the ladder is quite impressive. My trellis's are only as high as I can reach. I'm to fat and too chicken to climb that high for tomatoes. I think I would be able to summon the courage though if I had a money tree.

chisue - You apparently missed Satine's opening line, stating that her daughter is "near her due date". Ergo, she's had 9 whole months to be counseled and think about the decision she's making. Please stop giving advice on something that you know nothing of and in the process, typing out posts of discouragement. Satine, your family has been added to my daily prayer board and to our weekly prayer group/Bible study. Not even knowing you or your daughter, you both truly make me proud! Just plain proud. :)

Thank you all for your thoughts! I could try to post a diagram but it wouldn't be until tonight when DH gets back. The problem with this house is that it has been completely remade from its original layout, so we're trying to put back a semblance of sense into the rooms without going to really intense expense of re-engineering beam support, etc. A substantial part of our remodel money thus far has gone to correcting really serious problems (plumbing and electrical) that were created by the past reorganizations. The issue wrt the door right into the family room: yes, that's a very good point. We're placing it, as bronwynsmom says, a "bit removed" from the actual family room "square", as it were; we wouldn't have it *right* into the family room, but rather make a tiny hallway in the adjacent wet bar area (which was originally the master bedroom bath and closet...*sigh*) and have the door off that. It would be at a 90 degree angle, which I'm afraid is the best we can do. So between that and the mighty mighty Panasonic vent fans (have them in the other bathrooms and love them--quiet and effective!), there shouldn't be a privacy issue. The commode itself is close to the bedrooms-hallway door, not where the public door would be. We can't close up the first door completely because the second bedroom needs a bath that connects within the bedroom hallway. We have a LR but we're so not used to using it because it's been full of remodeling stuff for, well, years now. Wish we could have a PR closer to the LR, but this second door will go a ways toward fixing that. I don't *love* the idea of a second door, it wouldn't be my first choice, but given our realistic options now I think it's the least of the evils. deltabreeze, the idea of a complete separate powder room would be so wonderful IF we had the space. As it is, I don't think we can fit both in there without having the tiniest of jewelbox PRs and there would be no room for a separating hallway. But it's a *great* idea; thanks for thinking out of the powder-room box! :) The idea of labeling doors is good, too. They wouldn't be situated so that anyone's knees would be knocked, but still a good idea to prevent panic :) I'm thinking of a pocket door on this door, if possible (may be, may not be, but I've got it in my mind). All your responses have really helped DH and me think this through (I've forwarded him the link).

(((((Stacy))))) As a new member here, I am glad to meet you and I wish you only success in your life. And going to Disney is a wonderful fun place to relax and be a kid again. I'm not sure what the cyber tea cups are, but they seem to have a negatative connotation when mentioned, so perhaps I am best not knowing. LOL But I can vouch for the Disney tea cups, they are great and exciting way to enjoy the Disney experience. Enjoy your vacation. Helen