Their marketing and info is not the sharpest.

Turbo simply shortens wash time. It's an option for any of the cycles -- some like pots and pans are nearly 3 hours long -- they essentially are overnight cycles. I haven't found Turbo makes any difference in the cleaning and sometimes it only shortens a cycle by 10-30 minutes. It seems fairly dumb to me but it comes with the dinner, so to speak.

The important option for me is Express. That's the one I use all the time or if I have a load to do during the day. IMO that one is worth paying extra for. I have it on my Optima. It's a 40-47 minutes cycle. I use it several times a week and wouldn't trade it.

Hope that helps clarify.

When we use the DW, not all that often, we usually use the "Short Wash" on the 2005-2006 Miele Optima.
Everything comes out clean.
Rarely do we run the full was which is probably 2 hours or so.

Gary

Thanks to all of you for responding. Rococogurl, does the Express Cycle clean the same type of dirty load that you would normally clean on the Normal Cycle

shortycakes -- I use it for what I'd call "light" or day loads -- either the dw not super full or dishes that don't have heavy soil. Occasionally there will be a pot or pan in there that was used for soup or boiling. We both work at home and that thing gets full really fast. It's not unusual for me to do a load before or after lunch and then another one after dinner. I don't like to leave dirty dishes in there overnight and I never feel guilty about running it on Express even if it's half full as it's so fast.

If the dw is super full and/or I've got heavier soil or a pot or anything with oil or grease, I'll go with Normal and put it on after dinner.

Optima also has a china crystal setting. So if I'm using mostly dishes and glassware I do a china load with that. I've got a lot of old stuff and even the cut crystal goes in there. Primary reason I chose Optima was for c&c cycle, which also is a bit shorter. I have a 7 y.o. Excella in the house that doesn't have Express or Turbo -- for that one the c&c functions as my short cycle and I miss Express.

But for someone who might not need C&C, I still think the Express option is something to go for. It's just so darn convenient (and it's not necessary to pay $5K for the pro machine to get it).

Not sure which models have Express / which don't. But you asked a smart question.

Interesting. I pretty much use Normal + Turbo for all of my dishes. I've gotten some fairly dirty loads in there and have never had a problem getting anything clean.

Hi,
In order to achieve the cleaning results with a programme with the turbo function eg Pots and pans or Normal, the dishwasher increases the wash and rinse temperature to compensate for the shorter running times. There are four factors needed for a perfect clean: Time, Temperature, Mechanical action and Chemical action. When you minus one you have to increase the other. On the Excella and LaPerla models the pump speed increases to provide stronger pressure in the spray arms as well as an increase in temperature.

I recently bought one of the lower priced models, the Diamante Plus 2143. Some of the features that in the past were only on the higher priced models are on mine this year. I have the China & Crystal cycle, and also have an Express cycle. Then I have Turbo as a function.

I usually turn it on at night, so it runs while I'm sleeping, so I haven't really used any of the cycles other than Normal. Just a habit I got into with my previous dishwasher. Now I'm curious.

Thanks to all of you for taking the time to respond, and you especially Rococogurl for your 2nd reply. Now I have the information I wasn't clear on and can make a decision. And in the end...it's only a DW for heavens sake! Ha Ha

I just recently purchased a Miele Diamante with Turbo wash. We have used the Turbo option twice, and both times our dishes came out dirty. When using turbo wash, I would suggest scraping and rinsing dishes and cutlery prior to washing. Regular cycle is excellent.

I believe the Turbo cycle using hotter water to wash and hotter temps to dry. I have found it cleans very well and shortens the Normal cycle by almost an hour. I use Normal with Turbo for almost every wash and am very pleased. This combo also dries plastics better. There is no explanation on Turbo in the instruction guide; I found this out by googling around. I think Turbo uses more energy, so if that is a priority for you, you’ll have to put up with longer washing times and reduced drying.

Turbo wash uses more water to activate both wash arms which makes the cycle shorter. On regular it is one wash arm at a time which uses less water but takes more time to clean.