I just heard from Jeanne / Brugcrazy. She expects the Robin to arrive on Tuesday (because of the holidays). I'll keep the list posted 'cause she's having e-mail stress at the moment. In response to Daynatews-- yes, unfortunately it's too late. We're just about finishing up-- the robin will soon arrive at its last call before going home again. Next year I might organize another RR, but probably I'll do a named/specials swap instead. Stay tuned-- details will be posted here.

When you cut one open you'll see what's inside. Some of my cherry tomatoes seem to have an amazing amount of seeds and those seeds can be smaller than the seeds of larger tomatoes.

I am reading this older thread to collect opinions about Sweet N Neat. But I want to throw in a plug for Tiny Tim, which I have grown for over 40 years when I want a dwarf. This may be primarily a characteristic of a determinant, but you have complete control over the size of Timmy. Whenever his roots start to get root-bound, he produces tomatoes, regardless of size of the plant. I love to grow him in a coffee cup. I think he is so cute at 6 inches tall loaded with tomatoes. If in a 2-4 gallon pot, he gets to be a bushy 2 ft tall before producing tomatoes. He requires less light. In fact, he will die in full sun in the garden. He is the perfect indoor tomato because of the low light requirements. Granted Timmy is no Sun Gold in taste, but I consider him acceptable tasting. If you grow him 2 feet tall in an apt, you have a pretty abundant supply of tomatoes to add color to salads. I threw out Tumbling Tom because of bad taste, and Red Robin had nothing over Timmy. But I wonder how Sweet N Neat compares with Tiny Tim.

KatieC, I might have agreed about our similar growing conditions until you said last year was bad for you... last year was the best gardening year EVER here! But I'm with you 100% on going with varieties I know will grow well (and mature) in my conditions!!! You should have great luck with King of the North! but I do think the strain isn't completely stable, and it produces many peppers that aren't bell shape.... I think I grew around 8 plants of KotN last year and at least 3 plants produced non-bells. (ETA: I bought that seed from High Mowing Seeds - Organic). Many years ago I did lots of seed-trading on GW and tried many different varieties of tomatoes and peppers like Jimmy Nardello's and Marconi-- but I got so many dud seeds that didn't even germinate, or they were incorrect varieties, so I gave up on trading with strangers. lol! Way back then I was looking for a specific and rare pepper from Italy and I found a guy there to trade with... he sent some fantastic Italian and Spanish pepper seed varieties, including paprikas, but my growing season wasn't quite long enough to get good production. There's one he sent that I do continue to grow, he called it LaCrime di Christo... tiny and VERY HOT! Otherwise, the peppers I grow every year are things like Portugal Long Hots, Hungarian Hot Wax, Balloon Peppers, Anaheims, an old unknown Italian sweet variety that's very early (not bell), etc. I've tried Poblanos a few times but my growing season isn't long enough. :(