Hi, everyone! great news is that the Rosarian couple were very nice. I actually tried calling them last night but couldn't get through because they had their fax machine on. Then tonight they explained that they couldn't return my call because the number I had left them had been cut off by their answering machine. They too have not grown tree roses because like Karl had feared, rose trees do terrible in Kansas. Stupid me should also have thought far ahead about our tornado problems as well. I didn't think about this issue before the terrible winds this past weekend. Flower2sew, in Overland Park we got hit real bad. There is still debris from knocked over light poles on Hwy 69 from people crashing from the ice... But the snow lasted just one terrible day, it was very thick snow,and we were blasted with both ice and snow at once and in some parts of Overland Park, the cable lines and phone lines were down ...then argh, it shot up to near 60 degree warmth right the following day, then dropped down again the following evening. The rosarian couple agreed that they would never leave out the tree roses at this point because of last weekend's extreme swing of temperature (including this week) but they too felt I really needed to speak to a Master Rosarian, so they gave me the emergency helpline for the Rose Society. The nice rosarian couple I spoke to explained that they themselves have never grown tree roses because of how erratic Kansas weather can be in the spring and they said that the people they know who had rose trees all had either greenhouses or would go to a nursery and "rent" out a space for the winter. In other words they wouldn't know how to advise me on how to keep my roses indoors in my particular situation. They did feel that since my rose trees still have buds sprouting, that keeping them in a completely dark, cold, poorly insulated garage at this point is a question that only a master rosarian could answer. It is a tough call because no sane person/gardener would ever be in the crazy predicament that I am in now... I am doing crazy stuff like lightly spraying my roses with warm water in the morning and when I come home, then again before going to bed to keep them as close to a greenhouse effect and reducing my house temperature from 68 degrees to 65 so that I don't shock the roses when I bring them outside to 58 degree sunshine (but that makes me super cold indoors and I end up having to wear a few layers of clothing in the house and shivering under the covers when I try to sleep LOL). So hopefully I can reach the helpline before I get "outta control" and do more crazy outta control guesswork. Anyway, thank you EVERY One and All for your help and ongoing support! Hugs to each of you... P.S. forgot to say that to me the membership dues for the American Rose Society is very reasonable, and wouldnt have hesitated for a second had I not been so broke from all the training with Eluane and house payments but in due time if I can just make the baby steps and get both trees to survive.

Hey Josh, exactly! You hit that right on the head. Thanks for the encouragement too. I was hoping there was enough roots left to repot and take hold. As you would suggest, I did not water the mix right away and I figure at least two weeks before a thorough watering but in the mean time I will find a way to make the soil moist around the trunk but not up to it for now if the soil dries out. I will try not and panick if leaves should react poorly at first, although hard not to do. I will post an update. Jodi!!!Thanks so much for stopping by and your kind words. You have been missed on these forums lately:-( Jademan: Thanks man. I have always admired your plants too. I saw your photo album. Wow. Laura,Laura! Thank you and you are so right, the gritty mix has saved a many plants in my years of being here! Corpsman: It's made of 1 part fir bark fines, in particular not composted, 1/2 and 1/2 part of Turface and Pumice, and one part perlite or crushed granite chips. Hey Joe...That moss is a special kind that grows well on top of good mixes. I can get all I want at the Bonsai shop. What I do is put a very thin layer of a mix with a bit of peat over the gritty mix so the moss will continue to grow. I think the top of some of them could use little Bonsia ornaments too or a nice stone. I love this moss although the Oxalis has to go. Chris: Thanks man. I really appreciate it. Hex, I am confindent that yours will do much better than what they came in. Good luck. I hope many are learning from this thread since I hate to hear of anyone loosing their plants to rot from mixes that never allow you to water properly. Mike:-0)

I tried to kill some small amounts in my front yard where I had 2 fescue lawn sections - but it eventually took over both of them! I spent time soaking the runners in a cup of roundup - selectively spraying sections with roundup and it still completely took over our full sun lawn, and has taken over 3/4 of the other one. I am in the process of getting rid of the full sun lawn. The other small lawn I am thinking of spraying and scalping - then seeding with something more agreeable to me in the fall. It is part sun part shade on the east side of our house or I might try some buffalo grass in that spot. We are right now trying to plan for a new back yard lawn.

Ken, I sprayed it like like twice a month few years ago. Trust me, it just laughs at me. I will see some small dead spots but it doesn't wilt at all. I've read other threads too saying Round-Up didn't kill their soapwort. Floral_uk, Yes, I dug it last year and it still came out this year but it's reduced which is a good sign. Yesterday, I dug it again and this morning. I used a fork like shovel. I was very shocked to see more roots. This plant is crazy! I'll do it again around May if I see more. I made it is I didn't leave anything behind today. We'll find out. Oh, it's the same as my daffodil. I've dug it so many times but every year it comes back. However, they are not as annoying as the Soapwort. I haven't tried RoundUp on daffodil though. They're beautiful and not aggressive. Thank you everyone!