Symbols on bottom of silver candelabra
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How can I tell what lind of silver it is?
Comments (9)Here's how to detect Old Sheffield Plate: 1) The silver itself has a somewhat bluish cast to the color of it. Since it's applied silver on the surface and not 925, it won't match other sterling pieces and if I'm correct, won't match electroplate either. 2) Since the body of the piece is a sandwich of silver-copper (or other base metal)-silver, the inside filling needed to be hidden so a silver edge was applied and wrapped over. Some were done with ingeniously, others with more obviousness. The earliest piece of Old Sheffield in my collection has a raw edge on its spout and I can see the copper. "Silver mounts" printed on bottom is a clue that the trim pieces are solid silver. 3) sometimes an area of solid silver was set into the middle of a tray or on the belly of a liquid-holding piece to accept an engraved monogram or family crest. These usually show up as areas which will not tarnish at the same rate OR which don't look the same as the balance of the piece when you breathe on them. 4) Generally, Old Sheffield Plate had a lifespan from mid-18thC. to 2nd quarter 19th C. This means that the style of the piece needs to match the era in which it was produced. Some Old sheffield did not have a silver back but a tinned back, esp in early years. 5) "Pink" areas of copper showing through somewhere are your most obvious clue, where the servants polished too hard. But...Old Sheffield repros also have copper beneath the silver. 5) The silver smithing guilds hated the Sheffielders, whose work cut into their profits and apparently rivaled their stuff in glitz value. So they refused to allow proper hallmarks. At some times they required NO hallmarks; at other times, pseudohallmarks were given. You can find lists of these in silver books. Having no mark is a symptom of Old Sheffield, although sometimes on a complex piece I find alphabet letters embossed on them, such as on a water pan inside a warming unit. But...if there are numbers scratched on the underside, this is not unusual. I have a number of pieces with this kind of maker's doodle on the underside. 6) Liquid-holding pieces may have a seam on the inside. On the outside, they burnished this until it became invisible. 7) The Sheffielder had to out-do the silversmith at his own game, since they were competitors. This means that the Sheffielder produced high-fashion pieces, especially ones that attracted the rising new middle class in the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. People who lacked "old family silver" needed it for their social acceptance into the world of conspicuous consumption. This means that the pieces were often big. The kind of thing that shines on a sideboard and that went along with table service by servants. The upper class began to look at these pieces and say, hey, why not and so they began to buy into it also. But Old Sheffield Plate was not intended for heavy polishing, which is why there are so many pink pieces today. NEVER replate this stuff; collectors accept that the copper will show. It's considered part of the charm....See Moreidentify silver tea service
Comments (3)It's silverplate on copper. The marks seem to be sort of imitation British hallmarks. Here's a link to British silverplate hallmarks, so you can compare. It could have been made almost anywhere ... except Britain, unless you can find a genuine matching hallmark. Here is a link that might be useful: british silverplate hallmarks...See MoreReed & Barton 3-Light Candelabra
Comments (20)Absolutely for business there is some very nice quality candelabras in that range of price the tarnished / wax effect is very nice but don't forget that the hole set got go together otherwise you are just going to look exaggerated and for Reed & Barton candelabra no I'm not the buyer I would go for even older pieces perhaps in the 1870's / 1900's Nouveau style and you can get those for about the same price ,if you want to see overpriced items take a look to the replacements stores those guys are beyond $ 200.00 dollars in my opinion vintage or antique pieces perhaps more for your home unless you want to decorated a more selected established place....See MoreSheffield style Silver on Copper Tea set markings
Comments (17)I have tea set - coffee pot on cradle, another coffee pot, one tea pot, sugar & creamer, plus large tray. On the bottom the hallmarks are crown, S, shield, silver over copper. I think my mother got this in the 1950 in Texas. Could you please let me know the marker and approximately the value of this set. It is in excellent condition. Thank you M. Hanson...See Morelinnea56 (zone 5b Chicago)
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