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Comments (4)Welcome Ryan to the GardenWeb. I note that you just joined, and lots of your fellow gardeners will help you get started. It would help if you would edit your name area to indicate where you garden. We can't tell whether you are in Alaska or Texas. Potting mix is costly, but it does deteriorate and your plants will show it. In our area we can buy potting mix in bulk from our landscape supply much cheaper than the bagged stuff at the nursery. Here you can bring your own container or use their one cubic foot plastic bags which they fill for you. Check your local sources. Al...See MoreSeason Review
Comments (13)Well, for me, after an absolutely miserable start: losing 5 out of 7 tomato plants essentially right off to those ^$%@& tomato psyllids, I got things under control, and under floating row covers cut to cover my potted farm (all of my tomatoes, cukes, and melons are in 25 gal pots), and things went pretty darn well considering the weird weather here in coastal SD. It was an extremely cool, damp spring followed by an extremely hot _wet_ muggy summer. All in all, things went pretty well, especially considering that I'm attempting a home - farm entirely in pots which I've never done before. (No sunny dirt, lots of concrete) I had an excellent tomato harvest for a potted garden -- enough tomatoes for daily use all the way up until last week and I have 11 lbs frozen for winter. Stellar performers: San Diego, First Lady, Sweet 1 Million, Momato. OK performers: Green Zebra, Sweet Baby Girl. Flops: Black Cherry, Jetset, Early Girl. Chinese Eggplants ( 5 gal pots) did very well -- 3 pots gave us enough for dinner for 4 about once a week for 2 mos. Not bad for tiny pots on a deck.Lost my biggest one to spidermites -- even though I sprayed, the plant was too far gone. Need to check sooner about stunting next year. Big happy surprise!! My melon experiment went pretty well. I planted 2 melons this year in my 25 gal pots (redwood, same as I use for my tomatoes) and I got 11 cantaloupes (from 3 plants) of the Minnesota Midget variety -- just great for a one person breakfast. Each melon is about the size of a softball for the 1st half of the season, then down to baseball size, but jam-packed with flavor and well worth it. The Charentais melons were not as big a success. I only got 2 melons off 3 plants; the first one, early in the season, I harvested too late and it was already fermenting (wahhhhh). I"m waiting now for the 2nd to ripen off and have no clue as to its quality, though I'm dubious this late in the season. My lemon cukes went gang busters. I had them 3 plants to an approximately 6 gal pot (2 pots) and they gave me 3 cukes a day throughout the season. My second planting is just fruiting now and I'm going to harvest 4 in about 3 days-- if it works like last year, I'll be harvesting good cukes through the end of November. Herbs/Leafies: Tarragon, Basil, lettuce, mache, thyme, all great. Lotsa salads. Planted spinach (in date palm sheaths [falling off the palms now]) to try and grow our own, given the pull-from-market -- can't survive, since I normally eat about 6 bags a week! Trees: Figs: Not so good, 2 1st year trees, supposed to fruit this year (Petit Negronne/Black Jack).....I think I'm screwing up the watering. They fruited like crazy and every fig dropped off at about 1/4" in size..... I'm still trying to figure out how to water 'em. Meyer Lemon: OK, considering. Darn thing became viciously infected with red scale and I didn't see it, so got about 15 lemons (25 gal pot) and then the dang thing practically went comatose and lost all of its leaves while I battled the pernicious scale. Pink Lemonade: Ehhhh. lost the whole first fruit setting (think I wasn't watering enough) and half the leaves. I now have 11 fruit set at about 3/4" size which I think are going to make it. Watering a _lot_ more. We'll see. I"ve never tried fruits in a pot before (again 25 gal), but since I have no dirt here, I have no option....See More2010 Mid Season Tomato Review and First 2011 list
Comments (23)Jay, I am married to a former Pennsylvanian and he still has relatives there who garden and every summer I envy their cool temperatures (you know, they think 85 degrees is hot) and their usually abundant rainfall. When we go there to visit in summertime, everything is so lush and lovely that it blows my mind, especially compared to how roasting hot and tired everything looks in this part of the country at the same time. On the other hand, Late Blight seems to be on a tear there the last few years, so their beaufiful crops can fail suddenly. Marcy, That's a great list from the Kerr Center. Thanks for linking it. Susan, I think each of us adds/drops varieties for many reasons. After growing tomatoes for 25 years on my own and for at least 15 years with my dad prior to that, I'm just through with the massive experimentation. The truth is that out of every 20 or 25 new (to me) varieties that I try, maybe one or two is worth putting into the permanent growing rotation. So, rather than constantly looking for something new, I'm trying to refine the grow list and weed out those that perform least well in a broad range of conditions. I've reached the conclusion that there really aren't many, or maybe not any, incredible undiscovered varieties out there that taste/perform significantly better than what I've already tried....so I've stopped looking. I had high hopes for the Brandymaster series, likely because it is so tempting to believe there could be anything that could match Brandywine's flavor. They've performed so poorly here that I doubt I'd see a better performance next year or the year after. While many of you may be seeing significantly hotter or drier weather this year than in your average year, for us here in southcentral OK, our rainfall has been exactly 'average' for the year to date and so have our temperatures. If anything we've had slightly lower temperatures, in general, in Love County than we usually have although higher than average heat indices. So, for me, this is a pretty typical year except the real heat arrived in mid-May instead of late June so we got hot earlier, but not necessarily hotter than average...just earlier than average. A tomato variety that didn't perform well in what was a fairly typical year here at our place this year likely wouldn't perform any differently next year. In Oklahoma we have a wide range of average annual rainfall....some folks may average 15" of rainfall per year in western OK while others in eastern OK may average 50-60" or more. Humidity varies widely as does soil type and pH. So, what grows well for someone in highly alkaline soil and water in western OK may not grow nearly as well for someone in eastern OK with entirely different weather and soil. I enjoy looking at everybody's lists and hearing how different tomatoes perform for different people but I know that works well in areas drastically different from mine may not work well here. Growing in containers is much more complicated. First of all, nothing that I grow performs as well in containers as in the ground. Heat and pests hit container-grown plants much harder every year than those in the ground. The grasshoppers have completely stripped my container tomatoes of every leaf and fruit, but have only done sporadic damage to in-ground plants. It is the same thing with spider mites....only the container plants have had issues with them this summer. For me, container-grown tomatoes are great from Jan. or Feb. through the end of June or early July. After that, I might as well yank out those plants and toss them on the compost pile because they're toast. Last year, the tomatoes in containers did somewhat better than they usually do....but we had much higher than average rainfall and much more rain/clouds/cool weather than we see in an average summer. I'm looking for plants that perform best in the worst of conditions, not the best ones, because more often than not, we get the worst conditions every July and August. In containers, I plant tomatoes that can tolerate the heat and the restriction of their root growth and still perform. That means I often grow tomatoes in containers that I don't consider 'good enough' to plant into the ground....stuff like Better Bush and Husky Red Cherry. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm just at the point that I want what produces best for us here, and I don't want to keep looking for something 'better' because I don't think there is anything out there that's really that much better than our tried and true varieties that make our grow list most years. For a long time, I gardened for fun....trying any and every thing that interested me. We ate all we wanted fresh and gave tons away and didn't care if we put up much for the non-gardening season or not. In recent years, though, I've developed a deeper appreciation for the truly superior flavor of anything/everything that's grown locally and picked/prepared/preserved at its peak of perfection. Thus, I give away little and try to raise as much of our annual food supply as possible. In a good year I fill up three freezers, a root cellar and manage to can 2 or 3 or 4 hundred jars of 'stuff'. Since that is what is important to me now, I want plants that produce well, that provide tasty food we like and that are not prima donnas requiring a lot of pampering. Thus, I'm less inclined to experiment and more inclined to plant what produces really well with little fuss. In a lot of ways, the 'experimentation years' were a lot more fun, but the farm-garden-preserving years have been much more productive. Now my family is spoiled and I must produce as much home-grown food as possible because they don't like grocery store stuff as much as they used to. Even DS's firestation co-workers prefer fresh, home-grown and I'm going to try to plant a lot more for them next year so I can send them all the tomatoes, peppers and other yuummy things they're craving. There just isn't room, or enough improved soil, to experiment with varieties now as there used to be. I don't mind that, really, because as long as what I'm growing is producing well, I've gotten over thinking there are incredible varieties out there just waiting for me to find them. Megan, Black Plum grew very well for me for a long time and then for 2 or 3 years it didn't and I dropped it. It is odd how that happens....and I loved Coyote too. If my garden were twice as large as it is, I'd bring it back to the grow list. So many varieties, so little time (and improved soil). The tomatoes I grow from seed invariably outperform storebought ones and I don't know why, but I've seen it enough years to know it is true. Dawn...See MoreNext Season's Tomato Planting Plans - 2016
Comments (100)Every year my tomatoes have a theme. One year it was oranges, last year it was whites and container varieties. This year it's blacks and a few others, including the return of a couple kinds. Black Pepper- new this year, a paste Black Prince- new this year, 5 oz fruits Black Krim- new this year- beefsteak Black from Tula- new this year, saucer Dwarf Wild Fred- a return from last year. One of the best tomatoes of last year, the others being White Queen and Snow White Cherry. A nice container plant, and a tasty black getting compared to the other blacks this year. Jaune Flamme- a return from 2014. Hands down the best tomato of the year, great fresh, canned, and dehydrated. 2-4 oz fruits, compact growth habit topping off around 5', suitable container plant. Pink Bumblebee cherry- new this year. I try to have an interesting bicolor every year, last year was Copper River. I plan on doing a cherry/tiny eats compare year in a couple years, and need to test out a couple of little ones every year too. Sweet Pea Currant- new this year. Just another little eats, but container growable. I also have clones going from some of the indoor/overwintered plants I took in because I had seed stock failures last year, or because I wanted to test out their limits, lol. So a couple of these might stick around through the summer if I need seed stock off of them, but it's more likely that either they will get sold off come spring. Totem- a super hearty container plant. Sets seed well indoors and out, takes cuttings/cloning very well, and overwinters in the kitchen window nicely. Germination rate is high, and early growth stays small. Silvery Fir Tree- not so suitable for indoor overwintering, it likes a bigger pot. And it gets leggy. Will grow out for seed stock if I can coax the clones along till spring. It's a pretty ornamental I want to revisit in the future, so I want to save seed for the sake of saving seed. Beaver Lodge Slicer- Healthy plants, decent in containers. Taking cloning pretty well. I have a half dozen seed stock tomatoes growing and ripening right now, may or may not keep cuttings. A right nice and early setting red, it grows well around here and sells well. Copper River- really a lovely plant with nice flesh, I want to save this seed for the sake of saving it more than anything else. I have one mother plant that is a long vine, very leggy in the kitchen window. It is finally producing a nice sucker I can cut for cloning, and two small flower clusters forming....See Morebrokenbar
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