Hi Angh, I am on board with this too!You have been so kind in offering your love and support, it's the least I could do. I know I don't have any celadines that I would be willing to part with, one is only about 4 or 5 inc tall and the other is a small 2 tip rooted cutting, but I have other varieties that I have multiples of. Once spring arrives, and I know my trees have made it thru the winter safely, I can email you a list of plumeria that I have doubles of that I would be willing to part with. Thanks for opening up to me about all the treatments you have tried and still use. I have gone to the chiropractor myself, I did own a tens unit but that only helped for so long( I had the one knob cranked up all the way and it still didn't help.). I found that acupuncture worked very well but it is expensive. Especially for someone who lives off of comp and SSD. I was very unsucesfull with rooting plumeria cuttings, and I didn't own a rooted tree until I bought a small potted Dwarf Singapore Pink from Stokes Tropicals. I got it from there black friday sale. I was very lucky to spot that on there website. I got it for 50% off there original price. I think I paid $25 for it and it came in this nice festive metal bucket with a handle. It was supposed to be a planter but it didn't come with a drainage hole so I never used it as a pot. Anyhow, as fast as this "dwarf" variety grew, it would never have lasted long in that pot! That plumeria I think grows the fastest of any of my varieties but it is worth it. It had 5 or 6 inflos on it last year, more than any other variety I have, and same with the number of tips! It has tons of tips on it. I highly recommend this variety to you. I know a lot of people wont grow it because it isn't the showiest of plumeria, but what it lacks in flower color, it makes up for in fragrance and the amount of inflos it produces. It also produces a ton of buds on the inflos. Now again I have to say that I am not that great at describing the fragrance but to me it smells like a rose. I am sad to hear about your friends Celadines, but these trees are pretty tough. Hopefully they will rebound. If possible, you should post a picture of them. I have not checked out you link yet, but people then could comment on what they see and maybe they could help you save them. Are they squishy anywhere on the branches? IF so, then that's when you want to start cutting them back. When you cut, you will notice that the flesh is brown and mushy. You want to cut until you find light green flesh that oozes white sap when you cut into it. As long as you find that, then they can be saved. i hope your friends didn't suffer to badly, I feel so bad for these people. This is what I remind myself of when I have a bad day. I just think to myself that even with my bad back and now this infected tooth, at least I still have food in my fridge, a roof over my head, and heat to keep me warm, and a partner that loves me!! I also have a passion for brugs and I also have Frosty Pink...another thing we have in common! All I have to take pictures with for now is my IPAD2. I cannot figure out how to use Photobucket with it. I will have to look into other programs I can use. Take care Angh. Andrew

While I agree that many seniors enjoy the experience of watching the birds, I disagree with leaving the nestbox on the tree. I don't think any person, senior or otherwise, would agree that the joy of viewing the birds outweighs providing them with safest possible housing. A snake needs less than an inch of leeway in order to enter a space-we can only imagine the terror a mother bird would experience in this situation. Snake predation is not the only possibility, either. Can you imagine being inside that nestbox and having the paw of a raccoon or cat reaching for you? Definitely not worth the risk. If you decide to keep the nestbox, Donna, at least consider relocating it from the tree to a pole equipped with a predator baffle. Kathy

Please do get that spooker up quickly. A male HOSP will not give up. I fear he will be back with a new mate. Could you put up a second, cheap box to use for trapping him with a Van Ert? You can just stick it on anything, even a Shepard's hook. Just remember to take it down or close it off once you've gotten him so no native bird will try to nest in there.

Too bad we don't still have a chat room...I checked it out a couple days ago thinking I would post to see if anyone wanted to gather there...but it's not there anymore. If we still had it we could have all gathered there that wanted to. I miss the chats we used to have. They were fun and it seemed like we got to know each other better. Maybe I'll look into finding another free place.