We both know your first post was not an attempt at humor. Yes it was, you cannot read my mind. My first comment was directed at the members of the forum to quit sugar coating the facts. They know me and my since-of-humor where as you are new here and do not.. Your first paragraph has very little merit if you had read my entire initial post. Nothing had been overlooked, I stated I wasn't planting fescue this year, so there was no boat to miss. Incorrect IMO. Look at the title of your post and your comment in the initial post: That is, until somebody told me I could build a nice fescue lawn since I have a sprinkler system. They seem to think I can keep it green all summer long and still enjoy the benefits of a fescue lawn (green lawn well past the Bermuda dormancy). My lawn is already starting the transition into dormancy, so I was wondering what you people thought of my query. That leads me to believe and many others I assume from their responses that you were considering a to replace the Bermuda with Fescue. You may think I like to belittle people before offering advice but that is just your opinion not based on historical facts of my performance over the last two years. I offer no apologies, you are free to take or reject my advice, doesnt make me one bit of difference one way or the other I still don't understand why it makes no sense to kill off what I have now and seed with Yukon. Because it is a waist of time, money, and effort to do so on a project this large. What ever you have will come back unless you use soil sterilizers and remove all the sod plus a few inches of top-soil then replace it. I suspect since you said you plugged the existing Bermuda 27-years ago it was U3. It has pretty good cold tolerance; it just needs more water and fertilizer than Yukon to look nice. If maintained U3 will look better than Yukon with equal cold tolerance. You are on the right track looking at Yukon as it has pretty good cold tolerance among the common varieties. I still recommend a blend of at least two or three of the top varieties, because one will dominate and take over. It is like playing 3 numbers on a Craps Table, your chances are 300% better of winning. The top seeded varieties for cold tolerance are ranked in order for your area: Riviera SWI 1014 and 1046 Yukon Contessa Veracruz Now dont come away thinking common or seeded Bermuda varieties are the best cold tolerant of the Bermuda grasses because they are not. They are just the most inexpensive and easiest to obtain. The champs are hybrids like Ashmore, OKC 70-18, Patriot, and Aussie Green, Midlawn, and Premiere. However finding one of these is not likely in your area, you can find Patriot and OKC 70-18 south of you in Oklahoma City area sod farms and the cost are about $1.50/ft2 if you pick it up. Up to double that if delivered.

Don't know much about it, but I have been fighting the same crap for many years. I usually just R-U the small patches right before I get ready to re-seed in late August (yes, it's been that frequent through the years), but if there's any hope I may be interested. As I recall, there have been previous threads on it, but can't remember what came out of it.

Sorry for digging up an old thread but I am having the same debate with my wife and neighbors here in KS. Around here the big thing is Fescue...Fescue Fescue Fescue. And Bermuda is thought of as more of a weed. ....and I couldn't disagree more. My appologies to the Bermuda haters....but Fescue is horrible. Right now I live in a neighborhood where the HOA mandates that all yards be Fescue. The problems I have with fescue are that it requires a huge supply of water to live. Basically if you don't have a sprinkler system or you aren't out there watering before the sun comes up your yard is going to die eventually....especially if you're going through a drought like we are right now. We moved here from Fort Worth, TX where the summer climate is surprisingly similar to southern KS. Down there it's Bermuda Bermuda Bermuda. It requires very little water to survive. We had a sprinkler system and yet we seldom ever turned it on except for late July and August when it got the hottest (and sometimes when watering in Fertilizer and other yard treatments). And our yard looked great! One of the neighbors brought up that it goes dormant earlier and comes out of dormancy later than fescue. OK I'll concede that this is true. So I found a house here in my town that has bermuda (much to their neighbors' dismay I'm sure) and I kept an eye on it to see how much longer it took them to green up than the fescue lawns around it. 2 weeks later. I guess if you want to obsess over a few weeks of not being green that's your call.... I guess I'm stuck with fescue so I don't break the HOA rules....but I sure wish I had fescue because it sure makes more sense to me....at least for here anyway....

I'm in my 20th year in this house and we've always had a nice Bermuda lawn up until the past five years or so. The trees around my house on my neighbor's property have grown to the extent that they cut off the light to my back yard and now my Bermuda in the back has shrunk to only the very middle half of the yard with the rest going from mostly bare to completely bare. I've tried "shade tolerant" Bermuda and all sorts of combinations of landscaping and hardscape, but other than just paving over my yard, this doesn't seem to be an option. So I want to kill the Bermuda and then plant Fescue. But not exactly sure what the procedure is. Can anyone help?