Sungold tomatoes are an F1 hybrid. They do not come true from saved seeds. A search on the Growing from Seed forum or even Google will provide more information. Some people who do save the seeds report that they produce a good tasting red cherry tomato, but they are not as good as Sungold.

It sounds like you got a bad batch of sungold seeds. I've always gotten 100% germination from sungold. As I remember, it was pretty quick to germinate too, but I haven't started yet, so I could be remembering wrong. I do remember, off topic that Eva Purple Ball was so slow to start that I thought I didn't save the seeds correctly. They were fine, just wanted a bit more time and heat to start. As for your extras, definitly give them away. Craig's List is a great idea, but have you thought about a school? With little seedlings like that, the kids can really watch them grow and learn about how to pot a plant. If not all make it to the soil, they would have already pulled their weight teaching children the wonders of gardening. Pretty amazing.

Hi Donna, You can get variations in the amount of red in a bicolor, it seems to depend on the amount of sunlight and lattitude, just like the "blackness" of the "so-called-blacks." Some of the ICCs will be almost amber like Sungold, and others will be nearly red. On some the bi-color will be obvious and on others it is faint. Do a Google Image search, and you can see what I mean. I'd post the link, but lately GW won't let me link to an image search. :-( Are these your first fruits that are more grape shaped? Sometimes the first fruits of any tomatoes are not shaped like they are later in the season, although with cherries I find that they are usually pretty uniform unless we had funky weather about the time they were blooming and setting fruit. As for posting pictures from PB, use the html link, that's what I did for the image below. (You may want to try it in the test forum.) Betsy This post was edited by bets on Thu, Aug 15, 13 at 15:47

Thanks, Leila. I was hoping maybe someone bought a packet of seeds and didn't use the entire pack might want to trade with me. :) Thanks for the info. The first year I planted a Sungold tomato plant that I got from a Japanese grocery store, I was so impressed. The tomatoes were amazing! Then the next few years I bought plants or seeds from other places and I was so disappointed because the skin of the tomatoes was really thick, unlike the first crop. Here's my list of seeds to trade. If anyone would like to swap for commercial Sungold seeds, please let me know. :) Otherwise I might just end up buying a packet eventually, and hoping the skins aren't thick again. ^_^ Arugula Asparagus Beans (Pole Browder) Cauliflower Celery Cilantro Daikon Radish Eggplant (Black Beauty) Flowers, etc (Alyssum, Calendula, Coreopsis, Crepe Myrtle Arapaho, Cypress Vine, Delphinium, Four O'clock salmon sunset, Gaillardia, Gazania, Helichrysum, Hollyhock, Lunaria Money Plant, Marjoram, Mimosa Tree, Moonflower White, Nicotiana, Night Scented Stock Matthiola bicornis, Penstemon Barbatus, Perilla Shiso, Snapdragon, Cosmos, Forget Me Not, Morning Glory, Sweet William Double Flower Mix, Zinnia, Petunia Mix, Centaurea Cyanus, Kale Leek Melon (Tigger Melon, Calia, Hearts of Gold Cantaloupe, Sugar Baby Watermelon) Onions (Evergreen Bunching, Torpedo, Green Onions) Pumpkin (Sugar Pie and Big Max) Spinach Sunflower (Mexican Sunflower, Yellow Branching, Sunflower Seed Mix, Sunflower Challenge, Tomato (Large Red Cherry, Green Zebra, Roma, Jubilee, Beefsteak, Black Vernissage)