Quite right, Bestlawn, as to my post: I did not make it clear, and I should have made it clear, that I recommend use of 'organic' fertilizers during warm weather. My 'four to five' applications' was indeed a reference to Milorganite. I love the stuff. But if my post was capable of being construed as recommending four to five applications of a synthetic (Say, Lesco's 24-X-X, which is a fine product) fertilizer, I fear, as Bestlawn did, that a disaster would occur, because synthetics can't be used that way. Thank you for correcting my post, before fertilizer application time actually arrived. I feel I dodged a bullet here. The Original Poster should feel even better than I do . Courtdawg, you're going to want to maximize the fertilizer, should you care to follow my advice. But maximizing the fertilizer does not mean putting down five applications of a high-first-number synthetic fertilizer, it means putting down perhaps a synthetic in the fall, perhaps a synthetic in the spring (if the grass is already in place: otherwise, not), and dosing that new lawn with an organic, rather than synthetic, fertilizer. If you're comfortable with this advice, go ahead and do it. If you're not comfortable with this advice, the fault is mine: I'll be glad, as will several other 'old hands' here, to make it more clear, as you might require. The cogent part of my advice was 'you need to maximize the fertilizer, to maximize the rate of growth, because that helps a lot with self-repairing'. But it is not true that you can just throw down a synthetic fertilizer, four or more times a year, and expect good results. And thank you Bestlawn: once more, you've kept us, one or more of us, from getting into trouble that we might well have avoided. (Yay!)

Does anyone have a opinion on which grass seed is better. I live in Oklahoma and looking for a dark green plush lawn. Beside Triangle and La Prima I considered Pennington but could not tell exactly what grasses where in it.

Wow, I wasn't expecting insults, ridicule and vaguely anti-semitic complaining when I posted this (I mean you, Gary). And Haslip, thanks for letting me know you're a better gardener and have a lawn 20 times the size of mine. You probably drive a better car, too, want to put that in a post? Lighten up, guys, I just lost interest after the fall and didn't water it in the summer. Thank you to those people who replied and weren't jerks. reelfanatic: I'll probably take a thatch rake, reseed the rows with my leftover seed from last year. Or, maybe I'll just see how the grass recovers on its own with some water and the cooler weather.

Most local retail garden centers will have lawn seed blends suitable for a variety of PNW growing conditions. They will be various combinations of fescues and perennial ryegrasses. The fescues tend to be much more shade tolerant than the ryes, so look for a blend that features them. These are often labeled as directly as "shady lawn mix" :-) Ryegrass requires more sun to thrive but tends to hold up better to foot traffic. Fescues also tend to be more drought tolerant than the ryes, another reason blends featuring these seeds thrive in shadier areas under high tree canopies.