When I first saw this thread, I thought you had what I have EVERYWHERE - but mine is not tree-like. More like a vine that roots itself. I always thought it was some kind of wild raspberry (never saw fruit, but the vines look like it). I never looked it up. I just keep trying to eradicate it in my yard. Maybe you and I have the same thing. This stuff is nasty. It gets caught on your legs, and if you pull it without realizing what it is, it sure does hurt. If my daughter ever remembers to bring home the camera I will post a photo. :) Dee

Holy smoke, what a gorgeous flower! The flat form with many petals is called a rosette, and when the petals arrange themselves in four lobes it is called quartering. Both are common in old roses. My guess of modern was based partly on the assumption of repeat bloom. The bloom color, stiff canes, and plant vigor might suggest a bourbon rose, but I never heard of a scentless or disease-resistant bourbon. With the shiny foliage, it might be a climber that was bred in the early 20th century. I hope you will decide to keep at least one of these roses. It seems they belong with the house, and they are very beautiful. A few suggestions. (1) Get welder's gauntlets at Lowe's/HD, or order rose gauntlets online. They will make an amazing difference in your ability to deal with your thorny monsters. (2) You can remove whole canes at the base. Right after blooming is the best time to do that, to maximize the bloom. If you want to maintain a particular volume, remove 1/3 of the canes each year, choosing the ones that look oldest. (3) If you are training the canes against the house, spread them out in a fan. This will increase the amount of bloom and make tending easier by reducing height. (4) When lateral shoots come off the fanned canes and grow upward, just cut them back any time after June blooming. (5) If the roses are once-bloomers (not repeaters), don't water them. They should be fine without it and will grow less rampantly. Fertilize only once a year in April, or don't fertilize if you have decent soil and the blooming holds up. More on identification. How healthy is the foliage in August? Please estimate the diameter of the flowers. Take a closeup picture of a typical leaf and stem section with thorns. It needs to be focused and placed against a simple, contrasting background. Here is a link that might be useful: One of 2 other posts

What's the "grass-like" plant growing with the weed? Looks similar to monkey-grass. We have it in our gardens and it's very difficult to get rid of. My wife calls it cocoa-grass, but I've been unable to find anything under that name. Thanks.

Thank you so much!!!! That's it!!!