will exposing spider mites to 35 degree weather kill them
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Thrips & spider mites: HELP!!!
Comments (16)dan_keil_cr, In Jeff Gilman's new book "The Truth About Garden Recipes", he makes a few points about insect control, stating that garlic is more of a repellant than an insecticide that has medium term effect, say a week or two before you have to respray (unless it rains). The insects themselves will either leave your garden or go migrate to the leaves/buds/flowers you have missed. He strongly recommends that you use insecticidal soap to kill those insects you missed. Hot Chilli preparations either homemade or bought are particularly effective on mites as a repellant more so than an insecticide. He also likes the contact insecticide ingredient Acephate (not too tough on the beneficials with slight systemic activity), he does not like Imidacloprid for mites only (Bayer uses this in some insecticides) as it has been shown to actually increase the mite population, but could be used once to quickly wipe out an initial problem (some people have written it hurts bees but I have not seen proof of this). If you area is experiencing a drought it probable that all the gardens in your area are experiencing the same issues so spraying insecticides (a final resort) might only temporarily solve your problem as they will quickly return, maybe via your neighbors; thrips particularly are easily carried in the wind. One treatment might help to at least get it down to a manageable level or continued treatment with Beauvaria Bassiana fungus, if you can find it. If you can please let us know where you got it from. Thrips love drought especially plants that are drought stricken and thrips feed on mites, a veritable all you can eat buffet for them, mites and plants. One begets the other; similar to the Biblical plagues in Egypt; which in this case may be followed by diseased plants. In Whitney Crenshaw's "Garden Insects of America" he states that thrips are an important carrier of disease and are hard to remove from flowers and buds, so cutting them off when you initially spray may be a good idea. He further states that plants showing any sign of disease should be immediately destroyed. I am no expert on disease so you should discuss this with others more expert before you pull a plant. He feels sanitation of course is a key, raking leaves, etc., and that insecticides are a very weak second often being unsuccessful. Perhaps removing your current mulch and replacing it. And above all proper watering is the holy grail of control with this problem; watering washes thrips from plants and seals their pupal stages in the soil, which is why rainfall controls them. If your soil is not holding water well you might want to ask the soil experts what to do, mulch of course helps a lot. So it seems it might be solvable but will require constant vigilance and a lot of hard work spraying and making up your garlic preparations. One last note, home-made garlic preparations seem to work much better than store bought; you can buy no-skin cloves 3 lbs in a plastic jar from Costco. Store bought chilli concoctions seem to work better than home-made I do not know why. Hope this helps....See MoreSpider mites?
Comments (17)Sevin is hardly "the most toxic thing you could have used". Look up the LD50 of Sevin. Nicotine, Caffeine, and Tylenol all have lower LD50s than Sevin. (The lower the Ld50 the more toxic something is) But as said it definitely is one of the worst things you can have used for spider mites. I think you should find a new garden center. If you mix 1tablesopoon vegetable oil and 1 tablespoon of pure soap in 1 quart of water and spray this on the mites they will die. Don't use this if the weather is hot and sunny or you will burn the leaves. If you can't wait for a couple of cooler days cut the formula in half and spray late in the day....See MorePreventing/Controlling Spider Mites
Comments (24)Shamae, How big are the bugs? I know you posted a photo, but without something whose size is known (like, for example a dime or a penny or something) placed beside them to provide context, it is hard for us to understand what size your pests are. Spider mites are roughly the size of the dot over the letter "i". They are very hard to see with the naked eye and hard to view in a photo, though once you're used to seeing them, you can flip over a leaf and look at the underside of it and see the tiny mites on the plants then. Sometimes, folks new to spider mites aren't sure if they are seeing spider mites and we tell them to hold a clean white sheet of paper underneath a plant leaf and thump it. Tiny insects the size of a period will fall onto the paper and begin moving, and if that happens, they likely have spider mites. It actually is easier to identify mites on plants by the damage they do than by seeing the mites themselves. If you can tell us more about your pests, perhaps we can help you with an ID. If, by chance, they are the same size as spider mites, I'd suspect chiggers, but the pests in your photo look larger....more like the size of aphids? Not that I'm saying they are aphids, but rather that's just the size they are. Are you here in OK? Was your compost wet or was it dry? The more info you share, the better we might be able to help you figure out what it is that you're seeing. Or at least what it isn't. Dawn...See MoreSpider mites? help! pics
Comments (17)bigdaddyj: Thanks so much for the valuable information regarding lacewings. Taking all your replies in this thread amounts to a treatise on lacewing management for mite, aphid and white fly control. I'm forunate to have an indigenous green lacewing population in my small backyard orchard/garden. Someone must have released them in the neighborhood years ago. I have no problems with mites, aphids, (one exception) or white fly. The exception is the plum leaf curl aphid. When these little ^$#@ feed on plum or pluot leaves, the leaves curl up into a tight cylinder creating an impenetrable safehouse for them inside. Neither human sprays nor, apparently, lacewings can get at them or their eggs. But I found that Dr. Bonner's liquid soap sprayed during the dormant season gets their over-wintering eggs on the twigs and branches. (All leaves have fallen). This year, for the first time I have no problems with plum leaf curl aphid. The picture is from last year's attack. I'm in So. Calif. so the lacewings can manage the mild winter I suppose. I can handle the tradeoff: indigenous lacewings for indigenous earthquakes. There still is no such thing as a free lunch. Tony...See Morekemistry
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