Full moon next Sunday! Look out zone 7-8a

timmy1

16 years ago

Full moon on the 20th!

Using my formula, keep an eye on the forecast from the 15th through the 25th.

Tim

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johnpeter
16 years ago
Is this a moth thing?
jbann23
16 years ago
timmy1- what might that formula be? I remember last year you predicted frost by using the phases of the moon and were right on. Be a good thing to know. Thanks.
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timmy1
Original Author
16 years ago
jbann,

Basically 5 days pre full moon and 5 days post full moon. Watch for high pressure in this 10 day period. When high pressure slides over, you generally have little or no clouds, little or no wind especially at night. High pressure creates a "dome" where isobars surround your region in a circular pattern setting up a situation for bad radiation cooling in the center causing widespread frost.

For us here in RI it's going to be MAY 15th - 25th.

Tim
dave1mn2
16 years ago
Dang Tim, that'll be kinda inconvenient if it holds true for my area. Last avg. frost is 4-30.

Full Moon for May is 5-20.

Don't think I can hold off till the 26th but I do plan to be able to cover quite a few and I could probably hold a stash back till then but not sure of how many.
cdgtxs
16 years ago
We have frost predicted here(North central Texas) in the early morning hours of the 14th.Pretty good formula seems like.
CDG
tracerracer
16 years ago
Heck, I have a forcast for possible snow on Monday night/early Tuesday..........UGH!!.......Grrr........I am no longer in zone 1!! It followed me (took 4yrs) but it found me...............................(this is me runnin' screamin' from the room)..........T
earthworm73
16 years ago
Yup they are forcasting possible snow showers early morning on the 20th. Yesterday it was in the 70's.
tracerracer
16 years ago
We were in Central Point (Softball DHeader) high 80s...76 @ my house..........Sigh.............
timmy1
Original Author
16 years ago
CDG,

look at this map on my link.

Notice the "dome" over texas with 1029mb right now. This is going to slide east and be an issue for AR, MO, TN and KY for the next day or so.

Here is a link that might be useful: Barometric map live
tracerracer
16 years ago
timmy1:

I know you were 'talkin' to someone else, but, I gotta say, cool map.....It's in my favs now, thanks...........T
yardenman
16 years ago
What??? The "Full" Moon has no special effect on us. Its mass/gravity is always there and constant. The light we see from the moon is only that which is reflected to us according to the Sun/moon angle relative to Earth.

Do you think that the moon's gravity effect on Earth is related to the part of it we see lit by the sun?
bigdaddyj
16 years ago
I am with yardenman here on this one. I've never seen scientific evidence re full moon and frost probability.

Here is what Cornell U says:

Beware the Full Moon? Â People have always associated the full moon with an increased chance of frost. However, in reviewing weather records of four locations in the Northeast for the last 100 years, a full moon did not increase the chance of a frost. It was just as likely to occur when no moon was present as when the moon was full!

A HUNDRED year study at 4 different locations? I guess that's good enough for me.
timmy1
Original Author
16 years ago
Works for me! Go ahead and plant then.

Let's see, on the news this morning, frost and freeze warnings way south.

Ok, let's pay attention to the next moon in May. We will see what happens in zones 5-6.

Tim
sheilasgarden
16 years ago
Hogwash. Lows are expected to be in the 50's with highs in the 70's. Right where they should be. Actually, lows will be a couple of degrees higher.
shellva
16 years ago
Just a little west of the Hampton Roads area in Va and south into NC they have freeze warnings tonight. My area is supposed to get down in the mid to high 30's. I brought tomato and pepper plants in just to play safe.

Weather man seemed a bit happy about the whole freezing temps for this area this time of year.....but you know how they can get.....

Michelle
lee_71
16 years ago
The "Full" Moon has no special effect on us. Its mass/gravity is always there and constant.

Actually, this is not a true statement.

Just look at the tides. Yes the moon's gravity is always
there, but relative position to the sun's gravity is what effects the tides. ie. higher tides at full moon than at half.

That being said, I'm not sure how far this relates to temperatures in general.
As for the predicted frost in NC, we always get a "late" spring frost in April, and a 10 day window pretty much covers most of that time.....

Lee
barkeater
16 years ago
And I always found the new moon (no moon) was a time to look out for frost, even more than a full moon.
reginald_317
16 years ago
Remember George HW Bush remark about Ronald Reagan's economic policies? Was "Voodoo Economics" if I correctly rememeber. Well I think the same here applies wrt weather forecasting... i.e., "Voodoo Meteorology."

Reg
dave1mn2
16 years ago
Anything that can move the oceans feet per day can certainly act on the mass of water vapor in the atmosphere which I would think be an integral part of the weather engine.

"When the Earth, Moon and Sun are aligned (at full or new Moon), tides can be unusually dramatic, on both the high and low ends. When the Moon is at a 90-degree angle to the Sun in our sky (at first quarter or last quarter) tides tend to be mellower."

Here is a link that might be useful: Space.com
elskunkito
16 years ago
not convinced, but intrigued.
its scheduled to snow on the 20th. *very* unusual for here for this time of year...
joachim_ct
16 years ago
Tim, you are absolutely right about the effects of the full moon, although I tend to feel that it is the 5 days after the full moon date that need to be watched most. I have gardened in a number of countries with May frosts and the moon has the same effect all over the world. In Germany they even have a name for the 3 coldest days after full moon and call them "Die 3 Eisheiligen" = The three iceholiness. I never plant frost sensitive crops out until 5 days after May's full moon.
TJG911
16 years ago
ditto tim. while i don't put any belief in planting by the moon's phases, root crops when the moon is waxing and above ground plants when it's waxing (or is it the other way around?), when it comes to frost in may... beware of the full moon. my last frost date is memorial day (5/30 not the floating monday day) and this full moon is coming late in may. i'll have broccoli out around 5/15 and extreme cold can effect heading. personally if i was going to put tomatoes or frost sensitive plants out around 5/20, i'd wait 1 week but ymmv.

tom
nyssaman
16 years ago
I read an article in a hydroponics magazine a few months back the author was from Quebec he said that after the May full moon you can plant your stuff outside (this was for planting in southern Quebec)zone 4 because you will not experience any frost until the fall. The article was actually discussing moon cycles - I find it fascinating myself and wonder how he could say without a doubt there would be no frost after the May full moon. Has anyone else heard of this? Another side note many farmers plant their crops on or around a full moon saying that the seeds will imbibe and grow quicker and stronger - Myself I believe there is a lot of truth to this. Anyways I'm starting to wax and wane so off to bed.

Jeff
triple_b
16 years ago
I am not entirely sure the extent of moon phases affecting things. But I do know it does SOMETHING. Take the tides for instance. Also I used to sell hot dogs outside the cabarets at night. Full moon night was sure to be interesting. And when I was expecting my first child, the weekend of the full moon my water broke so I went to hospital. That weekend my entire pretantal class was in there having their babies! Many of which came in because their water totally broke or they were leaking. The maternity ward nurses agknowledge that the ward is busier on a full moon. When I came in they said 'wow it must be a full moon out there.' The nursery was wall to wall babies.
So I can imagine it would have SOME effect on plants if it can bring higher tides and pull babies from the womb.

Full moon next Sunday! Look out zone 7-8a

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