pawpaw in very south california
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Pawpaw: Act Two
Comments (52)Hi Dr. Eric, So you are not able to discern between bone and marrow? My line about California consumers demanding heavy metals was a joke. We do have a bad reputation in some parts of the country, but I thought you might get it. Sorry. I won't quit my day job. You obviously have checked the US Pharmacopeia for allowable lead content. What is it? I would expect a physician to have easy access to this data. .5 micrograms. That is ten to the minus ninth, I think. Is that correct? Regarding the paper on Rasagenthi lehyam: I am not responsible to ask an author of a paper to send you a copy. I provided the link to the free abstract. I talked about the paper and what it said. I accurately reported that. Maybe you could also do what I did which is to ask the author for a copy of the full text so that you could read it. We have intellectual property laws that protect publications. So I cannot just publish the entire text here for you. If you want to know, ask the author. If you just want to attack my argument without checking the paper, go ahead. It just does not become you. You are a better person than that. I absolutely agree with you that there is much work to do to evaluate this formula. I have talked with the author and find him to be a good researcher. He is just going to need another pile of money. He did a recent paper on the photosensitizing by curcumin of prostate cancer cells to radiation. As you are well aware, radiation of PCa is not effective in some cases. His work may lead to better medical treatments down the road. He is Dr. Chendil of Kentucky University. The authors of the one paper reporting on a human trial with 94 people using paw paw twig extract that has been written have not succeeded in having it received for publication to the best of my knowledge. If I become aware of publication, I will try to inform you. There is one interesting case reported by Dr. Steven Martin, an immunologist. His research group is called Grouppe Kurosawa. He reports on the efforts of "Anna" who started with a 10 cm breast cancer tumor 3 cm thick and has managed to reduce it to a few small nodules. Although his site is not a peer reviewed journal, so you won't be interested in what she reports, others may wish to read it. Very interesting application of EGCG and paw paw by topical means and per os using coconut milk as a carrier to avoid absorption by the chylomicron method and going directly into the lymph. Before you disregard Dr. Martin's site, I should mention to the readers that Alexa.com lists it as number five in the world for web traffic under the heading of immunology. So he is no crackpot. Happy sniping. Richard...See MorePawpaws Defoliating
Comments (12)I have lost maybe one-fifth to one-quarter of my many purchased grafted pawpaws to some sort of wasting disease that I can obtain no information on. It, or something similar, also declines and then kills or nearly kills even some seedling crosses I have made (e.g., "Mango" x "Overleese"). General chlorosis, browning, dieback from tips, stunting of leaves are common manifestations and bluish staining on the inner bark was seen on some examined. Small up to and 5-6 foot tall plants a few years old have been affected. I have attempted to treat the chlorosis (unsuccessfully) for every obvious potential deficiency: Fe (ionic and chelated, foliar and by root), Mg, general mirconutrients (via citrus fertilizer), N (several forms including urea, foliar and by root, plus organic fertilizer), and even commercial mychorrhiza bacteria and river bottomland silt. A few have shown some improvement, one or two perhaps full recovery, but most not. Seedlings from nearby river bottomlands growing in posts of pretty much pure but soil-rich compost show the least incidence. But other seedlings from one particular tree from the same source are among the worst. The several improvements mainly have been after a couple years and many trials, so the exact cause is not easily determined. Quite a few die back to the ground or near the ground but then resprout indifferently from the base. That has to be telling me something, but what? Maybe it is not all one thing, the chlorosis and the chlorosis plus dieback. In small new plants (first season or two) from nurseries I would more typically see wilting before the dieback. Most of these have been in big pots with artificial but manured soil that works just fine with many other trees, but others are in the ground. It has been very frustrating. I wrote several times to the "questions" e-mails (i.e., to more than one email address) that are found on the websites of the Pawpaw Foundation and the Kentucky university pawpaw research program but I never got any response....See MoreMystery Eggs on Pawpaws!
Comments (121)Nice pictures, Sherry! He/she is absolutely beautiful. Zebras are my favorite butterfly. I've always loved red and black together. The red on the butterfly really sets it off. I also love the extra long tails on that kind of butterfly. Ever since I've seen pictures of it online and in my butterfly guides, I've wanted to get the Zebra Swallowtail here. As I said in another thread, several years ago I had ordered two paw paw trees online. I don't think they ever were alive from the time I got them. I had the same thing happen again with more that I ordered, so I gave up on buying them from people. I think small ones in pots would be okay, but I'm leery about the bareroot ones. I had also tried to start them from seed a few years ago, but I hadn't done my homework and didn't know that they needed shade the first couple of years. They came up and were a few inches high but then died. After I found out that they should have been in shade, I knew that's what killed them. A friend saw that someone had seeds for sale online last year and so I decided to give it another shot and planted some that I can plant out in the backyard. They're about half a foot tall, and they're getting planted next month. I've never seen a Zebra Swallowtail here or anywhere else as far as I know (unless I saw one before I got into butterflies and just didn't know what it was at the time). None have been reported for my county. I was told that they hang out around the river several counties away. If only I could make a trail of paw paw trees from there to here! I sure hope that I'll be able to attract them here sometime. We live fairly close to a creek, so I'm hoping that will help. Do you have a body of water right near where you are? I think you mentioned that you only have one or two paw paw trees, didn't you? You said you're going to try to raise them again. Do you have any type of strategy? I didn't know if you'd try a different method. I'm still baffled over why I have so many GSTs die when I feed them rue. The eggs get laid on those plants, so it's not like I switched them from one kind of host plant to another. I want to try raising them on wafer ash some year. Right now my couple of trees are in flower pots and are only a few inches high, so I think it will be quite some time before I can feed them wafer ash leaves. I even thought about moving them to a more open location instead of keeping them in small storage containers. If I had potted plants of rue, I could sit them in my butterfly cage and see if that makes a difference. Rue has a pungent odor, and so I was thinking maybe they can't stand that in a pretty tight space. I figure it's worth a try to raise them in a more open space. So I didn't know if you were going to try something different with your Zebras. I certainly hope that they do well this year for you. Cathy...See MorePawpaws, Asimina triloba, a native fruit. Anyone growing?
Comments (3)I've got 3 baby trees-- well this is their fourth year in the ground, anyway, and one coming back from the roots (I hope) after being brutally killed by an errant weed-eater. But none have flowered yet. They're doing really well though, in decent if heavy soil and (formerly) partial shade. I just cut down the pine trees that were shading them so they'll be in full sun now. Yellowy? Well, more a bright spring green. It is my hope that some year soon I'll see a flower. They're all just random seedlings though. I plan on putting in a few Mango or Overleese grafted trees this fall......See MoreHeathen1
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