I am adding to this old thread that is 15 years old. I have picked up a lot of info from these threads on numerous cultivars that has helped me in my trials of many varieties. I found it interesting that farmerdilla has pale colored Yellow Doll. Different soils and temps can have effects like this obviously. Yellow Doll grown here in Florida is not a pale yellow but takes on a nice bright yellow. I have been growing that early variety here for a very long time. I grow it for it's earliness, for to me, it is the best early variety I have grown. Has anyone grown the variety Royalty? That variety is a 20-22 lb melon which supposedly ripens in 70 days. Noted for being a great pollinator and has an extended flowering period which will help with a seedless variety if you are growing them. I am going to put that one out in South Florida and start it very early so I can have watermelon starting out in early March. I also just noticed this thread started out as most vigorous vines! lol I think Orangeglo is at the top of my list but I have not grown some known for their aggressive nature and am not interested in doing so. I grow strictly for flavor and production. I will sacrifice production to get the quality of flavor I want, but if I can get both, then that is the cats meow. To me, nothing beat Gold Strike! It had it all. I do not see it ever being available again, which saddens me!

Hi Davecito, Please keep us posted on your seedlings. I am especially excited about your tangelo. I know these are grafted trees so I will be curiuos if you can get it to bloom in a few years and if the fruits are of any quality or not. Mike, LMAO!! I told ya I got that mango!! There are probobly around a dozen or a few more in the country and I had to have it. As far as room for them all, I don't know what I am going to do yet. Most will stay upstairs and that is why I am looking into the supplemental lighting. Thanks for that link. I have been there before but I never saw your lights. I will probobly order from them though. I will post pics of my new mango tomorrow when it arrives. Though its total travel time will only be about 2 days, I still worry with it coming bare root all the way from Hawaii. Fruits are supposed to be the cream of the crop! For that reason, it will be worth finding the much needed space. I am also going to be selling and trading most of my cherimoya seedlings. I don't know of too many people who don't like the cherimoya fruit. I think I need to send you a seedling. You can expect fruits from even a seedling in as little as two years!! I do wish the meyer grew more vegetation but I have at least 75 lemons now. I am going to have to figure out a solution to supporting the fruits so I don't risk the limbs snapping from the heay weight of all those fruits. I cannot believe how large the biggest fruits are!! I will get some upclose pics so you can see what I mean. The Oro shocked me. The one that came back from the brink of death actually was wilting even when the soil was still moist. I watered right away but I still had a lot of bud drop:( Fine with me since I really want both of my Oro's to grow larger so I can try these extra sweet grapefruits. Many thanks to you man for intoducing me to them and Four Winds. Keylime unfortunetly will require myself to pollinate it. I don't like it but it is needed. I only got one fruit on a hundred flowers!! Zecowsay, Your reports also mean a lot to me considering we both garden in NY. I had the identical situation with my ORo that you did. This tree is the stangest citrus I grow. The new growth is nothing like my other citrus. You think you have buds that are going to grow more branches and it seems like they have just stopped growing for a few weeks and then PRESTO!! They start to grow. DId you allow any fruit to hold yet? I know this isn't the forum for this but can you give me advice on caring for an adenium in the winter? Email me if you like. Thank you everyone for your responses. It is very interesting to hear your reports. Did I mention that my keylime is growing in MG citrus and cactus soil? I have not done anything to improve drainage. I wonder if the rootstock could be used for grafting producing a tree that would be more resistant to root rot. What do you guys think about that? Andrew

Multiflora likes certain things, like all plants. If you can provide those things, it does very well. If you can't, it dies. One of the things multiflora likes is acidic soil. So the general rule of thumb is: pH below 6 0 - seek out multiflora pH above 6.5 - seek out Dr. Huey pH between 6.0 and 6.5 - fly, be free, plant what you want or can get. Now this is totally ignoring any potential virus issue. However, I do wonder what the pH of the native soil is, and whether something has been done to the other beds that had the effect of dropping the pH. When Queen Elizabeth was a new introduction, almost all commercial propagation was budding onto multiflora selections. If there was something odd about its interactions with multiflora, I'd expect it to have bombed instead of becoming one of the classics of the 20th century.

No, Laura, so far no fruit. Still a little guy (two feet--I'll get back to that), I know Glen is a bigger tree (compared to Cogshall) but they also do reasonable well in containers (learned this from a Florida grower). I guess the reason for liking a faster grower is wanting a bigger plant without the wait..., but where space is the limiting factor, cogshall is definitely the superior choice! Fruit is also attractive. I knew a guy who was also crazy into plants, having converted his garage into a subtropical garden/party room. He was growing Ponderosa lemons, guavas, avocados, etc. inside and outside there were luxuriant kiwi vines (warning..., they grow and cover everything like kudzu in the South..., only the leaves are large and fuzzy). It was a source of inspiration. Well, I see a potted mango plant (must have been maybe only 18" inches tall). I said, "nice mango". He said it was NOT a mango! So, I take a sniff of a leaf, and definitely state..., MANGO! He was stubborn. Well, fast forward a year later, and he tells me that I was right after all about my identification. Why? This little guy actually FRUITED! Moral: They don't need to be massive until they fruit in containers.